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Comment by Nikki on May 18, 2011 at 8:03pm

I agree, Thomas.  We should have never allowed govt control of the schools.

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 18, 2011 at 8:00pm

The government/Globalist got involved and controlled education since 1904 to now.  They have integrated a Humanist Socialist program by Rockefeller foundation in order to control and set up the control of the mind of our ancestors to now.   It was in the planning to set up future generations for the NEW WORLD ORDER.  I have their agenda, timeline and programs that they set up.   Its part of the Jesuit/Illuminati, Political Zionist, and Masonic order to bring us to a NWO.    John Dewey was major player in not only setting up this Education fraud and the UFO hoax planning started in 1917.  All the History books are in fact fabricated.

Comment by Nikki on May 18, 2011 at 7:49pm

As for prayer or not in public school, that's the wrong question.  The question is why should the government be involved in school at all.

http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2011-05-18.asp

Comment by Nikki on May 18, 2011 at 7:35pm

@ Krypke, some claim it's hostile separation, but I just don't see that way.  What I do see is that the dominant religion doesn't want to share the spotlight with the others or with nonbelievers.

Comment by Cryptocurrency on May 18, 2011 at 1:58pm

@ Thomas. We may be saying the same thing. Separation of church and state have long been the subject of debate. From the Romans to the Monarchs, the founding fathers, and even today. Because of this, scholars have identified two types of separation: friendly and hostile. Friendly separation safeguards either institution from the others impeding control and influence for nefarious purposes. The liaison between church and state is open succor but restricted so that one may not take over and monopolize the other.

 

The two most oppressive institutions in mankind's recorded history are Church and State; you hinder tyranny, offer sanctity, and rule of law to citizenry under the aegis of separation. 

 

Thomas Jefferson writes:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

 

The derived concept; the phrase, "separation of church and state" goes back to Thomas Jefferson's letter to Baptists in Connecticut. Jefferson coined it and scholars codified the differences between friendly and hostile.

 

Hostile separation is what we see in secular America. Public displays of faith are discouraged and in some cases (public schools e.g.) are not allowed. Religious practice becomes confined to churches and private gatherings. Thomas Jefferson foresaw this encroachment of government imposing the collective will of tyrants upon the soldiers of God. Hence, separation of church and state.

 

For centuries elites have ruled by the authority of divine right; a state imposed theocracy. The Monarchs did it, the Egyptian Pharaohs, the Holy Roman empire was a pagan theocracy; countless Kings, even those mentioned in the Old Testament; mid evil kings etc. History is replete with rulers adorning religious symbols boasting priestly titles. If God is for us, who can stand against us, as it were.

 

One word -- control.

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 18, 2011 at 1:48am

@Jack..one point, Walter Veith is a SDA, therefore his material concerning other religions is right on but he is part of the SDA so to be taken with a grain of salt in that reguard.  Reference the teaching of Ellen White. 

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 18, 2011 at 1:24am

@Jack......here you go.  The Nine.

 

The New Age Movement, "The LIe of the Serpent" #11  on You tube.  Walter Veith.  Names of the ( fallen Angels)

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 17, 2011 at 7:26pm

agreed.......be ready for a fake rapture, Bluebeam to disillusion the Christians who have not said the prayer of repentance in their heart to be turned and confused.

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 17, 2011 at 7:11pm

Relative to the Rapture.   Being that there is really no clear cut determination when the Rapture is to take place I'm a believer in the doctrine that "no man knows the day or the hour of his return" and certainly not the Rapture.    It makes sense to the pre-trib and it also makes sense to the Pre-wrath.   I am fairly certain that it will be before the wrath but I'm on the premise that it could be any time from here on in.  Why from here?   lol  we are still writing on the computer as of this PM.

Comment by Thomas Gambill on May 17, 2011 at 5:00pm

@Jack. were you aware of the way government controls the religion?   The notion of separating church and state is their strategy to take away from the public the best way they can connect the dots of the "HOW" the Illuminati/Jesuits/Masons/Political Zionist has this World Revolutionary Movement organized.

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