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Comment by Nobody Will Observe on August 2, 2013 at 4:39am

Time to start looking at people as individuals.

You have good insight and thought.  Please excuse my low tolerance for victim-ism

Nothing but respect!

Comment by UnLearn on July 30, 2013 at 6:38pm

You have a point with the Black on Black violence in Africa, that exist to this day. I guess I'm more specifically referring to Black on Black violence in this country, but even then, it has more to do with tribalism, than race.

I still do believe that the current structure of power across the globe favors Amero-centric and euro-centric agendas and worldview, be it population control, war for natural resources, neo-colonialism, as I said on my show, people of color in this country and abroad have confronted the evils of the elite for hundreds of years and to this day are the beta test for how they plan to further their movement globally. It's now a matter of consolidating a consciousness among the people to offset their plans. It's starts with conversations like these.

Comment by Tara on July 29, 2013 at 12:13am

http://12160.info/group/musicwars/forum/topics/unlearn-only-in-america

Comment by Nobody Will Observe on July 28, 2013 at 11:59pm

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Comment by Nobody Will Observe on July 28, 2013 at 10:58pm

First I appreciate talking with you!

"Black on black violence and murder is preceded by white on black murder"  Really am I understanding correctly. Black on Black crime is whitey's fault? Black people are mindless victims? Not sure I understand. In Africa there was no Black on Black crime pre contact? They didn't already have slavery as a regular practiced  institution??? and Black people didn't sell other black tribe members to be sent to America and Europe?

'Eurocentric agendas" No human agenda. Only euro as much as it serves the few at the top of the heap of non human humanity.

Thank you for the lesson in Islam. I don't want to disrespect so I will leave it where it's at.

I respect the right of anyone to worship, or not, as they please.  Have no problem.  Just as long as their teachings (Obedience to God) would always respect my right to do the same.

Comment by UnLearn on July 28, 2013 at 8:06pm

As regards to the passage of the Qur'an you recited. This passage is often used by many to paint Islam and the Qur'an and pro-violence and intolerant of other. When one studies or reads the Qur'an it's important, as it is with any religious scripture, to understand it in it's historical context and the time it was revealed. 

In this case, the passage clearly states that there was a treaty developed between the polytheist and the Muslims, who were at war with each other, as the polytheist were continuously stealing the property and wealth of the Muslims in addition to their many attempts at killing the Prophet Muhammed, may peace be upon him. God has previously commanded the Muslim community to engage in a war of self defense, to defend themselves from unjust persecution, persecution that came for no other reason than that they worshiped the One God.

God in the Qur'an is asserting that though there disbelief will ultimately be punished by Him on the Day of Judgement, that the Muslims should adhere to the treaty that is in place. When the treaty was brought forth, it was actually done on the terms of the Polytheist at the command of prophet Muhammad, much to the dismay of his companions. God goes on to say, if the treaty is broken, as history shows it was on the side of the polytheist, they should resume the defensive war, that they had already been fighting against them for several years. 

Much of the revelations of the Quran need to be put in their historical context to truly understand their meaning and intention. It is unfair and inaccurate to quote or cite passages, without an understanding of the times, the present audience or the circumstances that brought the revelation to be revealed. Thanks again.

Comment by UnLearn on July 28, 2013 at 7:55pm

That's exactly my point. Racism is REAL. Black on black violence and murder is preceded by white on black murder that has collectively altered the value of black life in the minds of the community. Slavery came at the hand of Europeans, Arabs and elite Africans. Thought not ALL White people should bear the burden or shame of racism or slavery, one would have to admit that a great deal of historical and present day violence comes as a means to perpetuate American and Eurocentric agendas of of mental and geographical colonization at the expense of melonated peoples.

Comment by Nobody Will Observe on July 28, 2013 at 7:17pm

"Again, I understand how the media is manipulating this situation for their own agenda, but let's not act dismiss racism as some fraudulent creation, that doesn't have a long and proven history that effects the American psyche up to present day"

Agreed, and I think it cuts both ways. Perhaps that's the intended outcome?

Around the time of the Revolutionary War.  Blacks and White Indentured servants were getting a little too chummy, until the powers that be, elevated the non land owning whites to a slightly higher place in the country. Fixed that!

Comment by Nobody Will Observe on July 28, 2013 at 7:04pm

I pretty much agree.

Except I don't know what really transpired in that gated community that day. Did he chase him down. Zimmerman was not held to an 911 operators command. Nor do I know what Trayvone was up to. The main question is who attacked whom?  I read (true or not?) that Trayvone was caught with stolen goods and a large flat head screw driver at his school, in his back pack. Had pictures of a gun on phone. Like to drink nightquil in his watermelon AZ drink and smoke blunts, and had likely smoked right before the encounter. No charges were filed at school due to a program to mask criminal acts by students and make the school look better.  The fact that all pictures of Trayvone 17 are of a 12 year old. Smells bad to start with. Setting a false image of the victim.

The number one cause of un-natural death of young black males is at the hands of another black male. I ask where is that out cry. Fear of the white man is a remote possibility when weighed with reality, is it not?

I personally stand with the right of self defense. I'm color blind! I do not assume to know Trayvone's, or Zimmerman's gilt. What is the the logic, you base your conclusions on?  Could it just perchance be that color has something to do with it?

Blacks have overwhelming got the shite end of the stick in America. Hands down! but do we think a slave ship with a few white sailors rounded up slaves? Or did chiefs sell blacks to these men?

My point is the racism IS real. Are there more white racist than black? Are my children guilty of crimes before their life?  Seem we as people will never move forward. A person should be judged as an individual IMO that's how I choose to live.

Comment by Nobody Will Observe on July 28, 2013 at 6:33pm

Hope you get many listens your podcasts are filled with insightful thoughts.

May peace be with you and yours!

ALOHA

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