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Permalink Reply by Sheridan Louis Peterson on March 3, 2013 at 5:51pm

Yes, I have a request. I have put my face and name out there so everyone can see it. Lets begin this revolution by each and everyone of us doing the same.

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Permalink Reply by Nancy Oakley on March 2, 2013 at 7:46pm

Please check out Oath Keepers and spread the word. The group was founded by Stewart Rhodes on April 19, 2009 to reach out to currently serving and former military, police, and other first responders. To make sure they understand the Constitution, that their oath was to the Constitution, and that oath does not expire. To encourage them to refuse to obey unconstitutional orders. (They also allow like-minded citizens to join, and I have been a member since November, 2009.)

I believe you will find the list below quite relevant to this discussion. The idea is to reach the guys with the guns so they fully understand what's at stake, which side is the Constitutional side, so they stand down, and they do not fire on patriotic American citizens.

OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY
Click here to read full length version. 1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people. 2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people 3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal. 4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state. 5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty. 6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps. 7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext. 8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control." 9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies. 10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
www.oathkeepers.org

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Permalink Reply by B or D on March 3, 2013 at 3:50pm

Oathkeepers is a great site. And everyone should check it out. And spread the word.!!! 

People working to Stop the NWO !!!!

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Permalink Reply by Sheridan Louis Peterson on March 4, 2013 at 1:21pm

I FULLY AGREE. I recall Ikeman says at his trial is Israel, "I was only following orders. It was the Fuhrer's order to exterminate the Jews."  I have always followed the rules of The Oath Keeper since I left the Marine Corps.. However, non-violently. I also agree with Mahatma Gandhi and Marin Luther King. Violence only begets more violence. 

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Permalink Reply by Nancy Oakley on March 2, 2013 at 8:00pm

Stewart Rhodes, Founder and President of Oath Keepers, speaks to attendees at Day of Resistance Ventura County event on 2-23-13, on Second Amendment freedom, issues and his recomendations. He has among the most powerful ideas for preserving liberty!

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Permalink Reply by Edward S. Collins on March 3, 2013 at 12:58am

May I interject a curve. Does anyone in this blog know where we are in prophetic times? I'm a Vietnam vet, I spent five years in SAC after Viet Nam, on and off Alert. Between studying to mantain my combat readiness I studied the Bible. That was back in the 70s. I have been studying ever since. Folks we are about to go down into tribulation, probation is about to close. We will all be marked with Gods mark or the beasts. While the focus here is on the second ammendmant and what the government is or is not about to do and when. There is a snare being set that will catch the whole world by surprise. Oh yea I have an arsnel of weapons and ammo. I'm a survival specialist, I have my cave in the mountains staked out and I'm ready to bugout. Yet in my heart I know my plans are foolishness. The best advice I can give and this will not set well with may folks "Keep Your Eyes Upon Jesus" Unless these days are cut short no flesh on this planet will be saved...

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Permalink Reply by gaybird on March 3, 2013 at 2:32am

I know you are right, Edward.  I keep trying to plan, but realize, also, that's more or less a Don Quxiote fighting the windmills kind of a move.  I am keeping my eyes and my heart on Jesus.  I have known this was coming since I was a girl in the 70's and would dream about the moment the snare caught us all by surprise and it was always a breath taking moment in my dreams and we never knew it was coming.

I am reading the new testament and I want to understand what Jesus and God want us to know now more than ever.  For instance, I didn't know there was a probationary period, but this makes sense to me, as tough as it is right now, I knew this couldn't be the tribulations.  They are described as much more serious.  It also seems, in my understanding of what Jesus said, that everyone will have to go through the tribulations and then, when Jesus arrives in the Second Coming, the believers in him will be lifted up in an event commonly described as the rapture, though I can't find the word "rapture" used anywhere in the Bible.  Also, I've heard so many Christian people say the "rapture" will happen before the tribulations, but it doesn't seem that's what Jesus said.  It seems to me he said we are going to live through some unbelievably hard times (the tribulations) and then, at an hour no one will guess or predict, He will return.  And the true believers will be lifted up to the clouds (heaven?) and will be spared what comes next which is the full wrath of God (which I'm guessing will make the tribulations seem like a cake walk?).  Do you think I've understood this correctly?

I apologize to anyone who doesn't want to hear about this, it's just that I really want to ask Edward about these things.  Perhaps I should have tried to contact him privately, but I didn't think of that.

Also, it seems to me we are still going to have to find a way to live through all this and that it's important to love one another and to survive, if possible.  It also seems it may go on for some time.  Is that what you meant, Edward, about the days being cut short?  How can that be accomplished?

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Permalink Reply by Edward S. Collins on March 3, 2013 at 8:03pm

As in the days of Noah so it will be when Jesus returns. What happened? The Ark was sealed wih a few inside. Who survived outside the ark? 0! all life perished in the flood. When Jesus returns the dead in Christ will be raised fhom the dead (there sleep) come out of their graves and be taken up into the clouds with Jesus. We that are alive and sealed with God's mark and have  the testemony of Jesus will be taken up next. We will travel to the kingdom in heaven and remain there for 1000 years. The only life on this planet will be Saten and the fallen angels. You know chained for a thousand years. Chains of circumstances. The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years were finished. Then Christ will return to judge the dead. their cases have been decided sentence will be passed. The 1000 years spent in heaven will be spent pouring over the books to understand why loved ones are not there with us and why some who we thought would never be ther are. Probation yes we are on probation, Satan is trying to take as many down with him as he can so his time in the lake of fire will be less. Oh and people are not going to be tormented in a lake of fire forever. they will be burned up and be ashes under the soles of the saints. It is a myth that people die and go to heaven or hell You die you go to sleep until the reserection Pray you are in the first and not the second. All of this is in your Bible but you have to search the scriptures to understand it. I have not listed any scripture references for time and space. That is not what this blog is all about. Let me caution you all ocis site is monitored any atempt to organize to combat the government plans for a NWO. You will be taken out first when the SHTF. Be careful.

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Permalink Reply by B or D on March 3, 2013 at 8:14pm

Edward, thank you for your post.  What we want to do isn't "take out the governent", it is to voice our oppinions and take back what is ours by rights. There are thousands and thousands of people and thousands of sites with this same goal. We outnumber them, no question about that what so ever. We aren't looking to destroy anything, but to make things as they should have been a long time ago. I love my country, and I love my neighbors. I am willing to do what ever it takes to be part of these groups of people that haven't givin up hope on this country. This is not a certain end for the world. I have faith in people from all over the world to do what they think is right. I'm not willing to give up and just sit back and watch everyone loose there rights, or be part of things that I know are against our Constitution. That is why I am here, and that is why I will stay here and hope that others will do the same. We all have skills that we can use to make things right. We just need to come together and organize.

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Permalink Reply by Sheridan Louis Peterson on March 7, 2013 at 1:18am

Well, I am not an atheist. I told the pastor at the day care center last spring that I was a Ralph Waldo Emerson transcendentalist. Emerson was a Taoist who figured that God or gods were all pervasive like atoms and that existence including us was part of god. We are all a tiny fragment of the gods or the universe. The Bible is a mythology. The Old Testament is nonsense. The New Testament is a bit more plausible. One thing is certain, if there is a personal god in a white robe and a long white beard, he certainly does not have our best interests at heart.

I lived near Deer Park, Washington about ten years ago and knew cave dwellers with their arsenals and fear of UN black helicopters. The census takers said that they would go near them. Crazy, they said.

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Permalink Reply by B or D on March 3, 2013 at 3:37pm

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful,
committed citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.

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Permalink Reply by B or D on March 3, 2013 at 3:49pm

I received a couple emails asking me about my beliefs in God, and asking me why do I want to try to do anything about what is going to happen, why not sit back with family and friends and accept that the end is near, and that if I am a "God fearing person" and I have faith, that I will go to heaven with my family... 

WElllllllll... First off, I know many people that believe, and many that don't in a God or higher being., And yet no matter there beliefs, they are and will always be my friends and family. Look... What difference does it make if I believe in God or not???? Really, what difference? 

Ok, I do believe that there is a god/higher being... But that is only my opinion, And what you believe or don't believe is yours. Being that you now know that I do believe, why do you think I should sit back and wait? Wait on what exactly?

The end???? Who said that it will be the end??? People have been saying this for hundreds of years.. And what if your wrong? What if this isn't the "End" What if this is a test from God? What if the people come together and are able to change things? I would much rather try to do EVERYTHING I can possibly do to make a difference and possibly give everyone a chance... And that is what I will do.

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