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Comment by OAbrey on April 9, 2010 at 9:40pm

As I said, it wasn't me who first defined it. It was Petrarch.

Its not the opinion of just Wiki.

I am familiar with what was taught when I went to school, as the definition. Specifically within the context of Philosphy, its hard to Argue Anselm. And it was that context I was referring to in my "essay".

I was suprised however to find today that the term was first coined by Petarach,1330s, and that he believed he was still living in the Dark Ages.

I agree however you have to watch wiki. So I pay attention to the notes and bibleographies. When I read Oxford English Dictionary, and direct quotes from original writers, I feel more confident about this particular topic.

And as I said it could be argued within the context of the NWO, we could be on the edge of a new Dark Age.

Comment by OAbrey on April 9, 2010 at 9:07pm

Doh wish I could edit...
Should read,

I suppose some of us think so too-- (think we still live in the Dark Ages)

Comment by OAbrey on April 9, 2010 at 9:04pm

Puzzled by the thought the Dark Ages ended much earlier than what I understood, I did a Wikipedia search.
The original term was coined by Petrach in the 1330s.
His concept was that the Dark Ages lasted 900 years. Perhaps that was what I recalled.

Apparently modern scholars never use the term any more. Rather, they refer to the first 300-900 years as the Early Middle Ages. Indeed many of the older studies that looked at the Dark Ages believed the time of the Vikings was a dark time, and really an extension of the earlier period.

There have been some recent scholarship that suggests the Dark Ages weren't really dark at all.
Even though philosophical enlightenment was identified as beginning with Anselm and his resurrection of Platonist thought. The thought was with the fall of the Roman empire, those lofty philosophical ideas were submerged beneath superstition and despair. And they suggest it was Anselm who brought them back to life.

In the case of Petrarch, in the 1330s, he thought himself still living in the dark ages.

Comment by Jeff on April 9, 2010 at 7:31pm

There are many aspects to the agenda, copper is one of the lesser known as is the Port of Gwadar

Comment by Jeff on April 9, 2010 at 7:08pm

Thanks MM, I just downloaded the PDF, hey, got any spare body parts?

Comment by Jeff on April 9, 2010 at 3:59pm

I have more free time then most people so I try to listen to everyone. G. Edward Griffin is a favorite and he's been spewing the same rhetoric for many years to no avail until now. Like Gary said to me, he's probably wondering why no one listened until very recently.

My personal opinion, and it's shared by others, is that we won't stop global government. My concern is what shape it will take here in the US. I'm thinking we'll slip into a third world country since our economic base isn't needed any longer. That seems to be occurring now. I suspect that by 2020 we'll see a substantial depletion in global copper and even refrigerators and stoves may be beyond the affordability of many Americans. Afghanistan has the worlds 2nd or 3rd largest untapped copper reserves, one of the many reasons we're there, but even tapping into that we'll still see copper rise in price eventually. I just don't know when. A lot happening on the home front. Too much to navigate all of it.

Comment by claudette langley on April 9, 2010 at 3:45pm

Have to agree Jeff, David Icke did certainly spawn a weird following. How about listening to Allan Watt then, he debunks the craziest part and focuses on the historical agenda tied to today's situation.

Comment by Jeff on April 9, 2010 at 3:31pm

Doug, I spent 3 years living in Mexico and was an illegal alien the entire time. I owned a real estate brokerage and sold coastal property. The local hospital treated me several times and would never take a penny in payment. Put's a new spin on illegals in America. It's idyllic.

Comment by Jeff on April 9, 2010 at 3:28pm

But this is a self-defense forum so I should state that I don't own a gun.

Comment by Jeff on April 9, 2010 at 3:28pm

There are also a great many people whose foundational thought is based on bible prophecy, another failure at critical thinking

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