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Comment by Marklar on March 26, 2012 at 2:46pm

I understand Honeygirl, and no big. It is Megalamaniac's equating paganism and Lucifarianism which I took issue with as it is patently false and rather hateful towards anybody who believes in any religion that is not "of the book" so to speak and of non-believers as well.

Calling these symbols satanic isn't exactly accurate either but at least you didn't imply that half the world worships Satan.

Comment by Less Prone on March 26, 2012 at 2:40pm

For ages people have been lead to wars, motivated by religion. Isn't the marriage of the money changers and the priest class obvious to you? They had common business interests and they still do. Military industrial (intelligence and banking) complex is the concept to complete the warning sounded by president Eisenhower.

Comment by Marklar on March 26, 2012 at 2:27pm

Here you are resorting to the logical fallacy of offering up a straw man attack again, Megalamanic. You imply that I am taking the position that christianity is hateful when I said nothing of the sort. What I said is that it is hateful propaganda to equate paganism with Satanism/Lucifarianism, not at all the same thing. By doing this you basically said that nearly half of the Earth's population is evil. That sounds like pretty hateful propaganda to me.

Comment by Tara on March 26, 2012 at 2:27pm

Ok, so what happens if you believe in Christ and also are into astrology/astronomy or the study of the planets, the moon, sun, ect? I believe that even Jesus probably reveled in the beauty and mystery of the sky above him and had a natural curiosity in it.  

A symbol only has power in your life if you grant it that power. It is people who give symbols their meanings or powers, not the symbols majically having powers themselves.  

Comment by Marklar on March 26, 2012 at 2:04pm

I can quote scripture to:

And as the words are spoken, it is done.
The doll-people are made
with faces carved from wood.
But they have no blood, no sweat.
They have nothing in their minds.
They have no respect for Heart-of-Sky.
They are just walking about,
But they accomplish nothing.

- the Popul Vuh

cool, huh?

Comment by Meglamaniac on March 26, 2012 at 2:01pm

It is not hateful, being a Christian is about love and compassion for your fellow man.... Have you even read the Bible?

Comment by Less Prone on March 26, 2012 at 2:01pm

Honeygirl and Meglamaniac,

Signs of Satano-Luciferian "culture" are all around us in veiled concepts and symbols. Whether based on Satan or Lucifer it's a scam anyway. I don't believe the symbols appeared spontaneously but are rather little bits and pieces dropped here and there by the high cabal rulers of the world. Psychopaths have hard time hiding how "clever" they are. They just have to show off, and keep it on a level that they believe will not entirely expose them.

Adam Weishaupt's Illuminati declared a hidden war to abolish Christianity. Weishaupt also joined the Masons. After abolition of the Illuminati Weishaupt had to leave Bavaria and was protected by Duke Ernest II of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg living in Gotha and writing a series of works on illuminism, obviously financed by his benefactor. Note also that the original name of the English royalty is Saxe Gotha Coburg.

Albert Pike, advocated the Luciferian doctrine in his grand opus; Morals and Dogma. Star, sun and moon symbolism is as integral part of Masonic doctrine as Masons are part of world governance. Look at the US presidents that were Masons, the latest are still not included on this list. Royalty is connected to the masonry by giving names to high Masonic degrees and lodges. Also, many members of royal families have been and are freemasons.

Albert Pike; Morals and Dogma

"The Moon was the symbol of the passive capacity of nature to produce, the female, of which the life-giving power [Sun] and energy was the male. It was the symbol of Isis, Astarte, and Artemis, or Diana. The "Master of Life" was the Supreme Deity, above both, and manifested through both; Zeus, the Son of Saturn, become King of the Gods; Horus, son of Osiris and Isis, become the Master of Life; Dionusos or Bacchus, like Mithras, become the author of Light and Life and Truth.
The Master of Light and Life, the Sun and the Moon, are symbolized in every Lodge by the Master and Wardens: and this makes it the duty of the Master to dispense light to the Brethren, by himself, and through the Wardens, who are his ministers."

And then there are the daughters of the eastern star...

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To summarise; masons and other secret societies are an integral part of the world governance. Their doctrine is full of occultism based on ancient religions that were used to manipulate and abuse the people. They continue to abuse and manipulate the people as long as we let them do it.

Comment by Marklar on March 26, 2012 at 1:58pm

LOL, do I get a prize? Not trying to win, just trying to point out an obvious logical fallacy that spreads rather hateful propaganda.

Comment by Meglamaniac on March 26, 2012 at 1:52pm

To paraphrase, "I would rather that you are hot or cold, as for the lukewarm, I will spew you from my mouth..." KJV

Comment by Marklar on March 26, 2012 at 1:49pm

Hmmm, I wonder if Jesus would be cool with bearing false witness by equating paganism with satanism in order to vilify non-believers. I'm guessing not.

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