70 Percent of People will Torture Others if Ordered

Shocking revelation: Santa Clara University professor mirrors famous torture study


Replicating one of the most controversial behavioral experiments in history, a Santa Clara University psychologist has found that people will follow orders from an authority figure to administer what they believe are painful electric shocks.

More than two-thirds of volunteers in the research study had to be stopped from administering 150 volt shocks of electricity, despite hearing a person's cries of pain, professor Jerry M. Burger concluded in a study published in the January issue of the journal American Psychologist.

"In a dramatic way, it illustrates that under certain circumstances people will act in very surprising and disturbing ways,'' said Burger.

The study, using paid volunteers from the South Bay, is similar to the famous 1974 "obedience study'' by the late Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. In the wake of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann's trial, Milgram was troubled by the willingness of people to obey authorities — even if it conflicted with their own conscience.

Burger's findings are published in a special section of the journal reflecting on Milgram's work 24 years after his death on Dec. 20, 1984. The haunting images of average people administering shocks have kept memories of Milgram's research alive for decades, even as recently as the Abu Ghraib scandal.

The subjects — recruited in ads in the Mercury News, Craigslist and fliers distributed in libraries and communities centers in Santa

Clara, Cupertino and Sunnyvale — thought they were testing the effect of punishment on learning.

"They were average citizens, a typical cross-section of people that you'd see around every day,'' said Burger.

In the study, conducted two years ago, volunteers administered what they believed were increasingly powerful electric shocks to another person in a separate room. An "authority figure'' prodded the volunteer to shock another person, who was playing the role of "learner." Each time the learner gave an incorrect answer, the volunteer was urged to press a switch, seemingly increasing the electricity over time. They were told that the shocks were painful but not dangerous.

Burger designed his study to avoid several of the most controversial elements of Milgram's experiment. For instance, the "shocks'' were lower voltage. And participants were told at least three times that they could withdraw from the study at any time and still receive the $50 payment. In addition, a clinical psychologist interviewed volunteers to eliminate anyone who might be upset by the study procedure.

Like Milgram's study, Burger's shock generator machine was a fake. The cries of pain weren't real, either. Both the authority figure and the learner were actors — faculty members Brian Oliveira and Kenneth Courtney.

Burger found that 70 percent of the participants had to be stopped from escalating shocks over 150 volts, despite hearing cries of protest and pain. Decades earlier, Milgram found that 82.5 percent of participants continued administering shocks. Of those, 79 percent continued to the shock generator's end, at 450 volts.

Burger's experiment did not go that far.

"The conclusion is not: 'Gosh isn't this a horrible commentary on human nature,' or 'these people were so sadistic,'' said Burger.

"It shows the opposite — that there are situational forces that have a much greater impact on our behavior than most people recognize,'' he said.

The experiment shows that people are more likely to comply with instructions if the task starts small, then escalates, according to Burger.

"For instance, the suicides at Jonestown were just the last step of many,'' he said. "Jim Jones started small, asking people to donate time and money, then looked for more and more commitment.''

Additionally, the volunteers confronted a novel situation — having never before been in such a setting, they had no idea of how they were supposed to act, he said.

Finally, they had been told that they should not feel responsible for inflicting pain; rather, the "instructor" was accountable. "Lack of feeling responsible can lead people to act in ways that they might otherwise not,'' said Burger.

"When we see people acting out of character, the first thing we should ask is: 'What's going on in this situation?'''

By Lisa M. Krieger
Bay Area News Group

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_11283475?source=most_emailed

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Comment by Marklar on December 30, 2008 at 3:17am
The reason they go beyond is simple, once you fool yourself into justifying such actions you're invested in believing it. Good and evil have or at least human free will have momentum like mass. This is why it is so easy to divide whole populatios into philosophical polar opposites. Clinging to an ideology and riding it like a donkey until one becomes an ideological extremist (religious, political or otherwise) is an easy thing to do especially for the intellectually lazy since it is already laid out for you in a neat little package with plenty of other like minded and intellectually lazy people around to encourage your slide towards the ultimate in foolishness, which is thinking you have it all figured out and demanding that every one else needs to either get the picture or the sword and the torch.
Comment by Marklar on December 30, 2008 at 2:36am
Yeah, I saw this story. The first study was scary this merely confirms the first. For some reason whenever the original study cpmes up it always reminds me of the that old movie based on a true story where the teacher actually organizes his students into a radical activist group filled with hyper-patriotic fervor. When he has them worked up to the point of being ready to go out and bust heads for god and country he shows them a film about the Hitler youth to wake them up to what they have willingly become before they can do any actual harm.

Put together a social experiment like that with this sort of thing and it paints a pretty grim picture. I'd like to think however that such things are less indicitive of human nature than they are of just how effective the propaganda and conditioning towards becoming an obedient drone with which we grow up is.
Comment by leilei on December 30, 2008 at 12:04am
James aka adap2k: Yes, very.

bob: Milgram originally devised the experiment to test whether or not Adolph Eichmeann's defense was credible (he said he was only following orders, as would anyone else). It is sad and scary to see that a majority of Americans, according to this experiment, have a similar thought process.

I agree with you though, the person(s) giving the orders will often try to shift all of the blame onto those who followed the orders. The person giving the orders to torture/kill, etc. are AT LEAST (more, in my opinion) as guilty as those following orders
Comment by truth on December 29, 2008 at 11:55pm
This is a little scary. Worse than I would have guessed.
Comment by bob on December 29, 2008 at 11:36pm
That's why "a few bad apples" explanation does not hold water. Orders can be direct or implied. That is why the boss needs to be punished along with the employee.

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