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Comment by truth on April 25, 2011 at 7:32am

I only had time to glance at a few replies here. Number one, imo, this question and issue are a welcomed diversion from more pressing issues and another wedge in the constant division brought to us by nwo inc. I like to see a ban on common stupidity, and disrespect for your fellow man, but alas, thats no freedom now is it?

Comment by Tara on April 15, 2011 at 1:31am

Look up the definition of ban. The two strongest words that describe ban are forbid and prohibition. The first thing that happens when you try to forbid and prohibit anybody or anything is rebellion and rightfully so. Who among us wants to be told what and what not to wear, how to act, how to speak, what to do, ect? There's no freedom in banning a person, place or thing. Shouldn't we be able as a free people's to choose for ourselves? Of course our governments would think differently, right?..... bastards!

Comment by Maria De Wind on April 14, 2011 at 11:52pm

Didn't said a European Union  ban, nor even a legal ban as I even mentioned company policies which enforce discriminatory limitations toward delivery to some countries and as far as I am concerned for all practical purposes are as bad as socially enforced repressive attitudes. Whether you end up being fined, have a commercial transaction unilaterally cancelled or otherwise impeded by a third party policy, beaten in the street by opposing party thugs, having public or private services denied or simply been socially ostracized have the same underlying root: the imposition of an ideology by means of force. My point in choosing the Swastika was and is the choice of a symbol generally accepted as representative of an unpopular degrading and criminal ideology that hurts the principles of the majority of the population as well as the prevailing ideological principles of the states involved; the burka represents for many Europeans just that: If we ban one then we can ban the other and if we are against banning one then we should have to be against banning the other.

 

Maybe I should have said Throughout Europe rather than the Whole of Europe, Excuse the slip, this wasn't meant to be a treatise of codes.

The simple fact that the banning of the Swastika has been introduced repeatedly for European legislation several times doesn't mean it won't be introduced again and again, the bureaucracy in Brussels works that way, it gives them a good excuse for endless meeting and dinning out with colleagues, all it may take is for a more amenable mix of political parties to get a majority in Parliament, after all the proposal was introduced not by one but three parties.

Burkas, hiyabs and niqabs are already banned in Spain by several City ordinances and access to municipal dependencies and schools while wearing them is not allowed.

Poland prohibits the diffusion of communist, fascist and nazi symbols

Hungary's 1 section the Criminal Code’s law IV of 1978 is the following section 269/B prohibits the swastika along with other nazi symbols

The swastika flag is banned in France by an explicit text in the anti-racist law.
Philippe Bondurand, 06 Dec 1997

 

Etc Etc Etc

 

Peace

Comment by illuminated-dj on April 14, 2011 at 3:58pm

nikki GE and chase bank don't think the swastika shoul be banned ;)

Comment by Nikki on April 14, 2011 at 3:48pm

OK - Lauren, Maria and anyone else who wants to put their two cents in...

Should the swastika be banned?

Comment by Maria De Wind on April 13, 2011 at 10:02pm

Remember when Prince Harry of England went to a costumeparty some years ago, dressed as an SS-officer with Swastika-band on his arm? This is not illegal, since it was a costumeparty 

Wikipedia

here

E bay here

No Swastikas , nor heils

Austria

Germany, Israel, France, Italy, Hungary

toys and model replicas

need more?

Comment by Maria De Wind on April 13, 2011 at 6:53pm

Yes Slaves should be allowed to wear their shackes if "they like", no matter if someone is threatening their physical, economic or mental well being  if they don't do so because it is in "their culture/religion"...

 

just apply the same line of thought to banksters or illuminati, they do as they do because it is in their ideology to do so

Comment by Maria De Wind on April 13, 2011 at 6:43pm

Why then are Swastikas are forbidden in the whole Europe unless worn at a costume party?  

 

yet brandishing it, screaming "sieg heil" and singing Horst-Wessel-lied will get you in jail

 

 why is it banned even on historical historical realist items for sale on E-bay ?

 

Shouldn't those to whom it pleases to do so be able to display them too? Or is it OK to ban them because they represent a politically incorrect ideology whose leaders no longer stash secret  billions in Western banks  and have no control over hugely desired oil reserves?  Because IMHO a symbol of tirany is what it is no matter what, nor whom pushes it

EXPLICIT!

 

Comment by Nikki on April 13, 2011 at 10:33am

@Lauren, you're right about the drivers license, there should be no exemption for anyone and I don't believe there is in France.

@Not Happy, I hope the Muslim women will eventually see it as liberation but at the moment they see it as being attacked.  It's so ingrained in their culture it will be hard for many to suddenly stop wearing something they've worn for years.  Imagine if we were told we couldn't wear jeans anymore.  Perhaps it will be more accepted by the younger girls/women and in a few generations it will be gone in France.

 

I'm a non-religious person (although I was raised Catholic) and I actually cringe when I see someone wearing religious attire in public.  If I see a priest, nun, yarmulke, orthodox Jew, Amish, those prairie dresses worn by certain Mormons, etc. That's because they are putting up a wall around themselves.  It says I'm part of a cult and if you're not part of it too, don't approach me and don't talk to me unless it's absolutely necessary, and I'm better than you because I'm part of this group.  It's fine at home and in their house of worship but beyond that it's giving the finger to the rest of the society they live in.  The world would be a better place without this type of division and I would be happy to see it fall into the dustbin of history. 

Comment by Nikki on April 13, 2011 at 12:05am

I resent that Mr. Sarkozy is scapegoating women.  Burqas, head scarfs and veils are not the problem and you can't force people to assimilate, they have to want to do it.  So this will probably cause some serious backlash. I do agree with part of the law - that anyone who forces a woman to wear a burqa against her will will get double the fine.  The choice should be hers to make without coercion. Interestingly, the Koran does not say that women must wear a bee-keepers suit (as Bill Maher calls the burqa).  So if Islam is going to progress, it must start with the women.  The Islamic women's rights groups must reach out to their sisters and let them know they have rights and choices.  As for Europe, they've allowed out-of-control immigration and now they're paying the price.

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