Most of the constitutional debates in which I participate are about whether to comply strictly with the Constitution as originally meant and understood, or with court precedents even their defenders admit have drifted far from original meaning, or even with disregard for the Constitution altogether as a relic that is no longer relevant to solving modern problems.


The second most common thread is among those who would like to be able to strictly comply with the Constitution as originally meant, but lament that so many seem bent on not doing so that they represent a political force that is difficult for the constitutional loyalists to overcome. Most of those see the problem not as a deficiency in the Constitution but as a decline in civic virtue, and wonder how that decline might be reversed.


Some see a problem arising from the evolution of legal English, such that the language of the Constitution, written in the legal English of 1787, is no longer readily accessible to modern users of the language, suggesting either the need for translation or amendments to
clarify the language for moderns.


But there has been raised a different argument, that the problem is the Constitution, because it demands too much of people, and that it needs to be replaced by a constitution that demands less. The argument that the people are naturally unfit to govern themselves has often been made by monarchs and oligarchs.


About the time of the English Civil War, 1645-49, a royalist was quoted to have said, "A commonwealth is not fit for the people, because the people are not fit for a commonwealth."* By "commonwealth" he meant a representative democracy or republic, such as that once proposed by Simon de Montfort in 1265 and by the Levellers during the
English Cromwellian period.

 

Read more: http://constitutionalism.blogspot.com/2012/07/is-constitution-fit-f...

 

Views: 306

Replies to This Discussion

Nathan...An interesting statement,,,"The argument that the people are naturally unfit to govern themselves has often been made by monarchs and oligarchs." So my question is. "What makes them think that they are any more fit to govern?  Oh, I know its the fact that they were able to inbreed to keep the bloodline pure and in the family and just very very lucky they did not wind up as a imbecile or a ,,, low IQ freak that the mother had to do away with. 

I will look for a photo that..says it all.. thats if I have one of a eliteist imbecile in my files.

                This is the best I could find,  I just don't save a lot of photos of evil inbreed people.

 

'Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.' Robert A. Heinlein

:D

so am I.

RSS

"Destroying the New World Order"

TOP CONTENT THIS WEEK

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE SITE!

mobile page

12160.info/m

12160 Administrators

 

Latest Activity

Doc Vega posted a blog post

Major Technical Developments in 1960 and a Major CIA Disclosure

 In 1960, there were some very significant changes in science, flight research, and oceanography…See More
4 hours ago
Doc Vega's 5 blog posts were featured
7 hours ago
Less Prone favorited Doc Vega's blog post The Saga of Joe Adams May Have Solved What's Behind the Numerous Disappearances Going on in our National Forests
7 hours ago
Zfort Group posted a blog post
7 hours ago
Misteri joined Central Scrutinizer's group
8 hours ago
Misteri joined Machinegunmomma's group
Thumbnail

The Gathering

A place to meet and share contact information with people in your area as an emergency back up…See More
8 hours ago
Misteri is now friends with bob hob and Vladimir Putin
8 hours ago
Misteri updated their profile
8 hours ago
Profile IconMichelle Reichert and Zfort Group joined 12160 Social Network
8 hours ago
Burbia commented on KLC's group MUSICWARS
13 hours ago
cheeki kea commented on Doc Vega's blog post Plausible Explanation Behind Recent Cryptid Sightings in the Wild!
"Anythings possible mad science would bring back all of jurassic park if they could. From a birds…"
yesterday
Doc Vega posted blog posts
Saturday
Bob of the Family Renner posted photos
Friday
Doc Vega posted a blog post

Two Combat Aircraft Captured and Studied in WWII Pacific Theater

 During the heated contest of the WWII Pacific Ocean War both the US Pacific fleet and the Axis…See More
Thursday
Doc Vega posted a blog post
Wednesday
Burbia posted a photo
Aug 12
Millie P. Carlos is now a member of 12160 Social Network
Aug 12
Sandy posted videos
Aug 11
Burbia commented on Ragnarok's video
Thumbnail

Charles Manson Talks About The Global Elite

"Another group of people that get disregarded are the the Process Church.  Deaths and strange…"
Aug 10
Sandy posted a video

Captain fantastic scene (Bill of rights)

Scene from the movie "Captain fantastic"Uploader does not claim ownership of any of the footage used in this video. All credit goes to the respective owners ...
Aug 9

© 2025   Created by truth.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

content and site copyright 12160.info 2007-2019 - all rights reserved. unless otherwise noted