Sam Ettaro siezed an opportunity after PA Intergovernmental Affairs Committee on January 23rd, 2008 to bring certain points up to Department of Homeland Security Read ID Director, Darryl Williams. Ettaro asks Williams about Homeland Security's concerns over contract providers for biometric identity solutions being used by PennDOT and the Pakistani engineer responsible for biometric systems that help the States comply with Real ID. This apparently was of no real concern to Mr. Williams. NOTE: In his interview with the local news reporter, please note how he refers to "Federal databases" then later when asked about this, he denies it saying there are no federal databases. He also blatantly says on camera that biometrics are not involved a point on which Ettaro takes him to task.