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Permalink Reply by Central Scrutinizer on June 29, 2012 at 1:25pm

could give a shit less if the Criminals would prohibit the upside down display, will still do it!!!!!

That's what the 4th represents!!

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Permalink Reply by truth on June 29, 2012 at 1:27pm

I like the idea of flying flag upside down this holiday.

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Permalink Reply by karen arsenault on June 30, 2012 at 7:17pm

I got a printed notice from my brother( once removed)  respect for the flag is a title given to section 8 of the U.S. Flag code, and it adresses this very issue, Infact this issue is so important that that it is the first article written in the respect for the flag section. Here is the institution and article (a) in section 8 of the U.S. Flag code.

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the united states of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors,state flags,and  organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

(a) THE FLAG ShOULD NEVER BE DISPLAYED WITH THE UNION DOWN, EXCEPT AS A SIGNAL OF DIRE DISTRESS IN INSTANCES OF EXTREME DANGER TO LIFE OR PROPERTY  SO YOU SHOULD SHOW RESPECT OR CALL THE POLICE IN EXTREME DANGER!!!!

Flags are powerful symbols of the nations they represent. They are often rich in symbolism and are steeped in history and meaning. The American flag is no different, and given the flag's importance to the country, Congress created rules relating to its display. These rules serve to protect the honor of the flag as well the honor of those who fought and died for what it stands for.

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1. Distress

   • The only federally permissible reason to fly the American flag upside down is as a signal of distress. This distress is defined as being extreme danger to life and property. The most common use of this as a signal has been among sailors in distress to signal passing ships; however, this has become more infrequently used in light of modern communications technology.

   Benefits

   • The benefit to flying the flag upside down is that it is an effective means of non-verbal communication, since it elicits curiosity from those that see it. By drawing attention to the flag, the flag owner is able to transmit a message and generate a response in situations where other forms of communications may not be possible.

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   Protests

   • Some people have taken to flying an upside flag as a means of protesting something. This protest can be in response to an election, a government policy, or any issue that the flag owner feels strongly about. Although this is not "distress" as defined in the laws relating to the display of the flag, it is not illegal to display it in this manner.

   Effects

   • Flying the flag upside down as a form of protest has become a flashpoint of disagreement between those that say it is their right to do so and those who argue that it is disrespectful. It has resulted in confrontations between these groups and complaints about the flag displays that sometimes involve the police. In many cases, however, there is little the police can do since it is up the flag owner to remove the display.

     SO I WILL REPLY AND TELL THIS ASS!!

     WHY DON"T YOU GET OUT OF THE ROCKING CHAIR ON THE POURCH ALL DAY AND TURN OFF CARTOON LAND AND PAY ATTANTION ON WHAT GO"S ON IN THE REAL WORLD!!!!

     Flying the flag upside down as a form of protest has become a flashpoint of disagreement between those that say it is their right to do so and those who argue that it is disrespectful. It has resulted in confrontations between these groups and complaints about the flag displays that sometimes involve the police. In many cases, however, there is little the police can do since it is up the flag owner to remove the display.

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Permalink Reply by karen arsenault on June 30, 2012 at 7:59pm

Thanks Troy:

he sits on his pouch all day rocking in his rocking chair age 48) and watches  cartoon land served One year in the army and tells everyone he is a diable vet with a pention lol  dose not work he is a gigalo

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Permalink Reply by suzie on June 30, 2012 at 8:14pm

the only way to fly em these days..  mine has been upside down for years .. i wish i could flip em all  

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Permalink Reply by Donna Rennie on July 1, 2012 at 10:03am

Karen this is a good post as we approch the day of Independance you have to say we are not independebt anymore. We are a country od dependence of the governmet Making the Amercan people buy health care thugs running the White House and throwing executive order all over the place when it protects the government.  Karen and i discussed this hanging the American Flag upside down at length last night. I told her to expect some flack from veterans and others, Howevr i can assure you all there is no disrespect to Veterans, armed forces or this great nation of America not even the office of the President just the man who sits behind the desk. My father ws a retired vet in WW11 and also the Korean war as my grand father in WW1 i also have a brother who did his time in the Marines, Our ancester's even fought for the right for the declrtion of Independence against England What i am trying to say here is alot of people on different sites sit and bitch and piss and moan and do nothing. many people will give you Karen a hard time about hanging the flag upside down to show how she feels  about our Country being in distress but i for one an honored to stand with you. Troy asked us all to thank Glen Maine for all his hard work well i thank you Glen for what you do you are hitting the pavement every day to get the word out "We Are In distress.I will say this as i alwayas do when someone friends me "Thank you it would be y honor to stand with all patriots here in our fight for the Constitution and The United Staes Of America. Karen hang your flag upside down and show you are at least interested in stating your opposition to what this big out of control government is doing to our country because i have your back sister! and are proud of you for Standing Your Ground. Also thank you all who have sererd in the armed forces and fought hard for our freedom,We still have that fight right here on our own soil.

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Permalink Reply by karen arsenault on July 1, 2012 at 11:12am

Thank You Donna :) and thank you fellow patriots on this site for all you do I will stand my ground on this and I do have the highest respect for all who served  and fought for our constitution and our freedom my Brother has no clue whats going on around him so i will send him a memo too.

Protests

         Some people have taken to flying an upside down flag as a means of  protesting something.This protest can be in responce to an election,a government policy,or any issue that the flag owner feels strongly about.

although this is not distress' as defined in the laws relating to the disply of the flag,it is not illegal to display in this manner.

I would NEVER! EVER! do this on veterans day, Memorial day or Flag day this is a statement as to what is so unconstitution  of owr contitution here are just a fwe things that going on .

We invade a different country every year! Killing and displacing millions of people and spending trillions of dollars to enrich the Oil, Banking, and Corporate cartels!

The Census Department of the American Federal Government recently reported that “50% of the nation’s population were living below the poverty line”.

50 million people can't go to a doctor because they don't have health care!

47 million people need food stamps just to feed themselves!

25 million people are unemployed or underemployed!

15 million people's mortgages are worth more than their homes!

Our national debt is 15.3 trillion soon to go close to 17 trillion dollars! We pay off our debt with more debt! That is like putting gas on the fire! They tell the U.S. citizens it is their fault because they don't live within their means! They fail to mention it has everything to do with corrupt business and political leaders and the Federal Reserve and their fractional reserve banking system!

The worlds GDP is 65 trillion and the derivatives market is estimated at 1.4 quadrillion. Greece which is a part of the derivative market has defaulted and the ISDA (International Swaps and Derivative Association) has labeled this credit event a default, our 5 largest banks who own 97% of world’s derivatives. Now the banks are trying to figure out how to pay off the on the credit default swaps owed associated with Greece! But that’s ok, we’ll bail them out again! You know their motto, privatize profits and socialize losses! If Spain and Italy default it will crash the banking system. QE3 has already started with the currency swaps and the Bernank has hinted at cranking up the printing presses into overdrive.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the flagships of our housing bubble that has burst! The housing market used to be what was fueling the middle class as manufacturing was being outsourced to foreign countries, it got over leveraged like our banks and stock markets and there is no resolution in site! The mortgage settlement just signed is just another small fine and in reality a bailout for the banks for what they are truly liable for.

They tell us social safety nets, Medicare and Social Security that you and I paid into is Socialism when the largest recipients of social welfare in the history of the world are our “Capitalist, Free Market” banking and financial institutions! Remember the bailouts? We keep bailing out the banks to the tune of tens of trillions and we're told it's because they are too big to fail and all the while we allow them to get bigger! We are witnessing the biggest bank robbery in history and the banks and financial institutions are doing the robbing!

Our media (presstitutes) are bought and paid for by corporations and treat us like mushrooms! Reuters and the Associated Press try to tell us what to believe and think, such as unemployment is at 8.3% and falling, freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength, war is peace, they hate us for our freedom, the terrorists are out to get you, the economy is great, borrow and spend! etc…

Our constitution, our most sacred document as a country is meaningless!

We have lost most of our civil liberties through the passage of the Patriot Act and National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and the new National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP)! They have authorized the use of spy drones in American skies! You can be surveilled by any number of Federal agencies, have your phone and computer tapped, bank, medical, and private records accessed! You can be arrested without gaining access to an attorney or a trial. We are molested at the airports or radiated for “security”. And just recently added National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP) which comes on the heels of NDAA. This Executive Order allows the government to take pretty much whatever it wants including crops, farm equipment, vehicles, boats, aircraft and fuel to “prepare” for the national defense. This includes making people work for free. You think I’m kidding about the free labor? Here’s a line straight from the EO that says, “. . . to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation. . .”This is authorized even in peace time!

NYPD’s aggressive street policing program, called “stop-and-frisk,” which predominantly targets low-income minority neighborhoods. In 2011, the program stopped and searched more than 500,000 New Yorkers, 85 percent of them black or Latino. This program is moving to a city near you!

We have created another cartel the “Prison Industrial Complex”! We have outsourced our incarceration of United States citizens which consists of over 6 million prisoners! This exceeds the number of prisoners held in the gulags of the former Soviet Union at any point in history! All objectivity of prison reform has flown out the window in exchange for profits! No prisoners no profits! In some state contracts the conditions of privatization require that states guarantee prisons remain at 90% occupancy! Are there prison lobbyists? You bet and loaded with cash compliments of you and me!

The Military Industrial Complex is King, our defense budget is larger than the rest of the world’s combined! We are the enforcement arm of all the world’s cartels! The policeman of the world! In our countries short history we have bombed over 60 different countries! The outsourcing of our security to private military companies like XE (formerly Blackwater) is increasing dramatically!

The phony war on drugs! While our military protect the poppy fields in Afghanistan, the Opium supply produced in Afghanistan went from a modest 185 tons at the start of American intervention in 2001, to a robust 8,200 tons of opium, a remarkable 53 percent of the country’s GDP and 93 percent of global heroin supply; Wells Fargo has been caught laundering money for the Mexican drug cartel in the United States (look it up); The use of drugs in the health care industry is over a 100 billion dollar a year scam. There's no profit in the cure only in the treatment. You are not allowed to buy the same manufactured prescription drugs from other countries at a cheaper price because the drug lobby has had congress pass laws against it to protect their profits.

We let the elite divide us so that they can keep us in fear, distracted, and divided to the theft going on right in front of our eyes each and every second of the day! The theft of our civil liberties, money and property!

What is wrong with this picture and what does it say about us that we allow this to take place? We have lost our moral compass and our priorities as a country and need to get them back! It is time we concentrate on fixing America for awhile!j may God Blass America

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Permalink Reply by suzie on July 1, 2012 at 11:29am

Hear is one vet who is with you ...  and so am i 

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Permalink Reply by karen arsenault on July 1, 2012 at 11:37am

Thank You Suezie.

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Permalink Reply by suzie on July 1, 2012 at 11:40am

AMERICA IS IN DISTRESS!!!

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Permalink Reply by suzie on July 1, 2012 at 11:44am

there are many people who feel the same way YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!

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Permalink Reply by suzie on July 2, 2012 at 9:54am

Check this link out Karen...  lots of people are flying in DISTRESS on the 4th.. http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/on-the-4th-of-july-people-are...

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