Cass Suntein, President Obama's regulatory czar, recommended "cognitive infiltration of extremist groups."

I have news for you, this has been happening for at least 6 years on the web, perhaps longer. My experience on message boards is perhaps more extensive than any other truth seeker. If we 9-11 truth seekers are "extremists", how do we detect infiltrators if they are present?

I've learned how this is done. It is actually something junior high school debate teams could achieve easily once the parameters are understood. Just like by the very nature of what the "cognitive infiltrators" have to work with is about on the same level.

I have had a huge advantage here because I actually know exactly, in general terms, how the Twin Towers were constructed. I viewed a 2 hour documentary in 1990 titled "The Engineering and Construction of the Twin Towers" that aired nationwide on PBS. I work in construction, have been a welder for 35 years and have also worked as a driller for a blaster on "above ground" blasting projects for road building. I almost attempted to gain the OJT needed to get my BATF blasting license, then decided construction was waning generally.

That advantage is having accurate information about the Twins that can be used to test a group with for infiltrators. My information is absolutely consistent with all evidence. Any one who is in construction knowing of steel and concrete can confirm this consistency.

The average truth seeker is at a major disadvantage because they do not know what is correct or not correct. If they know construction they can determine what is correct once they see it, but before that they do not know.

What I encountered was made a little more difficult because no one had come out and said, like Sunstein, that infiltration's were recommended. I had to determine by behaviors what constituted "cognitive" or exactly how the term was applied to a specific "infiltration". How it was carried out by whomever might be doing it, what it looked like.

Another aspect of the infiltration that was not readily obvious, but became so fairly quickly, was that the infiltration utilized social fears. These are the primary tools of the infiltrators.

A) Ridicule
B) False agreement
C) Social castigation


A more sophisticated and generically related tool is "cognitive distortions". Behavioral psychologists have a list of these that they use in defining when and where therapy needs to be applied to correct erroneous thinking in a patient. Erroneous thinking can, over periods of time, cause people to alienate themselves from others and interfere with the life experience significantly. Here is a list that has been slightly modified to more easily show how it can be applied by others in writing or speaking to distort your perceptions and thoughts.

1) All or nothing thinking: Things are placed in black or white categories.
2) Over generalization: Single event is viewed as continuous.
3) Mental filter: Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.
4) Minimizing: Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.
5) Mind reading: One absolutely concludes that others are reacting positively or negatively without investigating reality.
6) Fortune Telling: Based on previous 5 distortions, anticipation of negative or positive outcome of situations is established fact.
7) Catastrophizing: Exaggerated importance of self's failures and others successes.
8) Emotional reasoning: One feels as though emotional state IS reality of situation.
9) Should" statements: Self imposed rules about behavior creating guilt at self inability to adhere and anger at others in their inability to conform to self's rules.
10) Labeling: Instead of understanding errors over generalization is applied.
11) Personalization: Thinking that the actions or statements of others are a reaction to you.
12) Entitlement: Believing that you deserve things you have not earned.


The real power of the above can be understood when it is realized that this "infiltration" is always by one group of another group. Individuals do not infiltrate discussion groups easily or effectively unless everyone thinks the infiltrator is absolutely trusted.

In the case of 9-11 cognitive infiltration, it appears that there was something far greater than just a few agents logging on to message boards and distorting discussion. In the case of 9-11 the extent of the distortion via infiltration has been conducted by a MAJOR PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATION. Message boards, information web sites, specific movements, videos, individual icons and organizations on the ground have been either created, produced or (mis) led by agents of one type or another.

There is a term somewhat understood is "disinformation". That would be the goal of "cognitive infiltration" through the methods of disrupting thinking and resultant action so completely that failure is constant and the group infiltrated concludes that the activity is a waste of time and impossible. By the use of fairly simple informational structures as tools for the group of infiltrators to use, we can see how constant failure of action could be created in a larger, unknowing group.

D) Misinformation
E) Useless information
F) Over information


It should be obvious to any informed person conducting accurate and comprehensive critical thinking that the internet was created as the "global village" with the usenet then converted to .com to appear as a commercial free-for-all (which it is) but also take advantage of a simple psychological fact or feature of the human mental capacity.

Human being have 2 brains. Only the left brain can conduct cognitive, rational reasoning. The right brain has most of our long term memory, autonomic function, emotional response structures cooperating with the limbic system. When you have a thought that makes you feel something, that is the limbic system working.

Here is the simple fact.

When people speak or listen to speech, the left brain is always involved to some degree. When reading or writing, the left brain might not be involved.

We read and write on the internet therefore we are more vulnerable to "cognitive distortions".

The identification of "cognitive infiltration" is quite simple once a person is aware of the above and a few simple, general parameters.

A dominate primary parameter is that no ground obscuring correct information ever be relinquished. Meaning real evidence cannot ever be recognized. Cognitive distortions 1 thru 12 are used to diminish the meaning of facts and evidence while showing false group preference of )D, E) and F). Another is that infiltrating agents always agree when opposing specific accurate information. Otherwise they disagree within F) and D) with others acting under B). Secondary is that a false pretense of social interaction be evident to reinforce C) the deception that the group of infiltrators are normal Americans using the internet. Another secondary parameter is that Constitutional principles and lawfulness by government be underplayed, but not overtly rejected.

When the above fails ridicule is the only tool left and to avoid compromising the group of infiltrators only a few infiltrators apply the ridicule and odd reinforcement is randomly applied by other agents of the infiltrating group.

Consider the black budget is fully large enough to conduct this and within cold war secrecy we would have no way of knowing such was true. Consider that two presidents have warned us of various aspects related to this thread and its purpose and they both were in office just prior to the construction of the World trade Center.

http://algoxy.com/psych/audio/military_eisenhower1_17_61.mp3

http://algoxy.com/psych/audio/jfk_secrecy.mp3

Another aspect is that those conducting "cognitive infiltration's" will never meaningfully take part in a discussion about "cognitive infiltration".

To demonstrate my absolute support for the US Constitution and every prior social contract carried by it and supporting it I will share with the viewer an element of natural law. It originates with the spiritual and philosophical understandings of Native American people who contributed significantly to the concepts the framers of the constitution incorporated into our social contract. This is something every America should know but does not. The reason for this is a union of church and state that disallowed this knowledge from being of the first words of the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. Instead of these words about free speech we have freedom of religion.

The greater meaning of free speech comes from an understanding that might be found by practicing it. From the understanding can come; forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust, friendship and love, protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

All right . . . who is really here for truth?

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Yes, 9/11 is a major issue, whether I disagreed with your inane assertions in a chat room is not. Get a life. Your theory true or not, is unlikely to have any great effect on anything. I can hardly care whether your theory is correct or not when it is unlikely to have any effect of convincing anyone of anything.




Christopher A. Brown said:


Marklar said:
Then you admit your theory is mostly irrelevant, as I said, because no other proof is necessary and turning my statements in a chat room into a major issue is just plain douchebaggery.

9-11 is a major issue, I don't have to do anything. If you cannot use evidence and reason while rejecting what can resolve the major issue just because the group has been decieved and you are a part of it, it is not my problem no matter badly you wish to make it so.

Wait for TheLasersShadow's answer.
I have no doubt that most people would yawn, turn off the news and watch Dancing with the Stars on TIVO. If massive amounts of real evidence cannot convince them then this will really bore the crap out of them.



Christopher A. Brown said:
Looking for accountability here. TheLasersShadow, question for you.

How do you think Americans would react if it came out on the evening news that NIST did not have the building plans for their forensic analysis because guliani had taken them in a violation of law? And that it turns out NIST had been deceived by FEMA into analyzing towers with steel core columns when the towers actually had a concrete core?
I'm starting to get flashbacks of cold fusion Jesus here, LMAO.

Promote my invention or you are all heretics! So sayeth the lord thy water bubbling God. Be Jesus or die!


Marklar said:
I can hardly care whether your theory is correct or not when it is unlikely to have any effect of convincing anyone of anything.

Marklar, question for you.

How do you think Americans would react if it came out on the evening news that NIST did not have the building plans for their forensic analysis because guliani had taken them in a violation of law? And that it turns out NIST had been deceived by FEMA into analyzing towers with steel core columns when the towers actually had a concrete core?


Marklar said:
I have no doubt that most people would yawn, turn off the news and watch Dancing with the Stars on TIVO. If massive amounts of real evidence cannot convince them then this will really bore the crap out of them.

That is not reasonable because they do not believe what you refer to as real is evidence at all.

How much do you think the average person knows about relating to due process and murder?


KLC said:
well I wouldn't say delete it...I just couldn't figure out why it was featured considering whats being said about some of our most valuable members of 12160 :) we love marklar, sky & brokensheep!!!! they are NOT disinfo agents!!!!!!!! grrrrr



Patriot Horse said:

Sorry KLC! Maybe it should be deleted then? Or give him a good talkin to. Took care of it sista. DON"T MESS WITH MARKLAR! :(( ^-^
KLC said:
why is this post featured???? the guy is rippin on marklar, sky & broken calling them dis-info agents and cognitive infiltrators. He's been a member for less than a week and made this stunning observation? I think this whole post is dis-info...and the fact that members are cheering it on is even more disturbing. Has anyone read thru the comments??????

I guess the fact that no one here, including you, giving me a hard time for bringing evidence . . . has produced any evidence to show that their belief in FEMA's official info is justified; means anything to you.

You are defending a primary nwo agency that has obstructed justice by misinforming NIST who was supposed to be conducting a forensic analysis of collapse that supposedly killed 3,000 people.

You might not be an agent, but do you know what you are doing?


Patriot Horse said:

Sorry KLC! Maybe it should be deleted then? Or give him a good talkin to. Took care of it sista. DON"T MESS WITH MARKLAR! :(( ^-^ And just now I've read all the comments, although the post itself is ok until Chris copied the chat and moved in THAT direction. tsk tsk
KLC said:
why is this post featured???? the guy is rippin on marklar, sky & broken calling them dis-info agents and cognitive infiltrators. He's been a member for less than a week and made this stunning observation? I think this whole post is dis-info...and the fact that members are cheering it on is even more disturbing. Has anyone read thru the comments??????

The equine police are not responding to reports of people saying one thing and doing another, meaning I must take things into my own hands. After all, 3,000 murders, the constitution compromised, war declared, economy ruined; I think a few screen shots of the willfully ignorant or unreasonably dismissing behavior is justified IF a person is into truth.


TheLasersShadow said:
My answer, I honestly don't believe your correct that the steel was left out of the core columns. That being said, there is so much that can very easily be proven to the masses that going down this road is not needed.

Whether the cores were made of taffy or bubblegum physics still apply and free fall is impossible without the use of explosives.

The legal issues you bring up might in time be useful if it can ever be proven conclusively in a court of law.

Really the focus right now in this movement needs to be waking others up and preparing for the possibility of extreme depression and martial law in whatever form it come (riots, civil uprising).

Normally people on forums like these present information and let it lay, the members pick it over and move on.

You seem to as i said before to be on a crusade to bring this information forward, even if you could prove this point of view to me and others the MSM and courts would ignore you just the same as they do any argument. This is a waste of time, this is my last response on the issue. Thanks -TLS

Wow, a reasonable comment. All that denial, evasoin, derision almost cover it up. Gee, what kind of tactic is that?

The steel was not left out of the cores. First when you say "cores" plural, you are describing both towers, because each tower had one core. It was a structurally empty steel reinforced cast concrete tube 1,350 foot tall.

Inside of it were elevators halls and stairwells. The steel seen in construction photos has been misrepresented as "core columns", It is not. It is elevator guide rail support steel.





the butt plates shown in those images, the closest of all images from construction, show that the joining of vertical steel was done with butt plates. Only a deep fillet weld, 100% through all 4 walls will suffice for a core column. Here's an "I" beam with a deep fillet weld so you know what it is.





Butt plates are way too weak. PERIOD. Which is why the core is empty in all 9-11 images and video.

No, the masses are covered by the experts who state there is no way to plant enough explosive to do what is seen. They are correct. The concrete make it possible to build the explosives in and seals them from evaporation and oxidization. The concrete makes the only possible explanation anywhere, including with the masses. The simple fact that the cause of death can be proven invalid is enough. The masses know that engineers must have plans of buildings that collapse to understand HOW they collapsed and didn't will wake people up.

Most people do not KNOW for sure what information they bring. In fact it would be good strategy from the infiltrators of the US government to send agents in with tons of useless information (misinfo and overinfo) and deposit it then leave. Later agents could say that was normal and ask, "Why aren't you doing that?"

The courts ignore their duty and they only get away with it because people are not unified around it. I have filed my evidence of treason with the US district court in Los Angeles.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html
http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.civreassign.html
http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.civreasign1.html

The disunity comes from deceptive and manipulative, unaccountable socializations making people afraid to associate with evidence dismissed socially. In this case unreasonably. By not using evidence you set an example that says it is okay to not use evidence or that evidence should be rejected. You do this while producing none of your own to show your belief in FEMA is justified.
Of course it is reasonable. If incontrovertible evidence is ignored how else would you expect lesser evidence to be received whether relevant or not? In any case if your theory wakes anybody up then great, keep it up, but I just don't see it as an effective vehicle for that, sorry.

If you fail to meet with the success you hope for then you might want to change tactics no matter how much you believe in your information. After all the actual chances of a new investigation are pretty much slim to none but the chances of waking people up in general to this and several other topics so that they realize just how important resistance is remains very possible and well worth every effort to do so.



Christopher A. Brown said:


Marklar said:
I have no doubt that most people would yawn, turn off the news and watch Dancing with the Stars on TIVO. If massive amounts of real evidence cannot convince them then this will really bore the crap out of them.

That is not reasonable because they do not believe what you refer to as real is evidence at all.

How much do you think the average person knows about relating to due process and murder?


Marklar said:
Of course it is reasonable. If incontrovertible evidence is ignored how else would you expect lesser evidence to be received whether relevant or not? In any case if your theory wakes anybody up then great, keep it up, but I just don't see it as an effective vehicle for that, sorry.

If you fail to meet with the success you hope for then you might want to change tactics no matter how much you believe in your information. After all the actual chances of a new investigation are pretty much slim to none but the chances of waking people up in general to this and several other topics so that they realize just how important resistance is remains very possible and well worth every effort to do so.



Christopher A. Brown said:


Marklar said:
I have no doubt that most people would yawn, turn off the news and watch Dancing with the Stars on TIVO. If massive amounts of real evidence cannot convince them then this will really bore the crap out of them.

That is not reasonable because they do not believe what you refer to as real is evidence at all.

How much do you think the average person knows about relating to due process and murder?

I'm familiar with the info that the truth movement has pushed as evidence. Pushing "nano thermite" destroys the environment for introducing evidence. There was absolutely no need to do that. Anyone with some technical experience could determine that thermite was used. There is no other possible way to get that much molten steel.

But noooooooo, tiny particles had to prove more. All officials obviously contacted experts who told them the research on nano thermite has absolutely no velocity or pressure specification eliminating that it is a high explosive.

I'm sure they laughed when it was suggested that the "nano thermite" was painted on. OMG, I'm gonna' puke.

That statement completely ignores the absolute need for containment. SICK!

I can assure anyone that IF the public found out that NIST did not have the plans and that they were misinformed that the Towers had steel core columns when they actually had a concrete core; they would get active and start demanding re analysis of the cause of death.

But, are you interested in this absolutely new and fundamentaly valid approach, nooooooooooo. Your reasons why don't add up. Unless you confess you are afraid Dylan Avery would laugh at you.


Greg said:
Christopher A. Brown already annoys me and he hasn't even been on board for two weeks yet. Sorry Chris, that's how I think. Your a greenhorn on the boat and your already causing waves with your negativity towards valued members.

This is ALL social and no reason or evidence is being used. Truth will never be found this way and the future cannot be protected without it.

Does my positivity towards feasible explanation for 2 towers going to the ground in 20 seconds matter? Apparently not. No one is discussing facts and evidence, its all social.

Meaning the nwo is going to trample our world and the murders of 3,000 innocent people will mean about as much as the nearly 1 million killed in the resulting illegal wars.

Not one member has expressed interest in defending the constitution or using law to make acountable, lawful government. Saying one thing and doing another is a babylon thing. Unconscious operations. No left brain rational capacity.

Accordingly, how do you feel about going along with all that social stuff and helping the nwo to create unlawful, unconstitutional government and destroy our futures?

Seriously, I have defined concrete steps to using my information and all those opposing this evidence and supporting official information have never even mentioned how the info they do acknowledge might be used officially to gain action. All they have talked about is "waking people up", which is a generalization and label for something that appears to fit the nwo polarization of the populations to reduce unity and potential opposition.

All that info they might use for "waking people up" has already been tried and has actually served to alienate officials from any evidence at all.
buildings fell in 9.6 secs....not 20 seconds ;)

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