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February 13, 2013

How many wallets with ID cards in them did Dorner own? wallet

Just like the suspected 9/11 terrorist’s explosion-proof passport that was found magically intact amid the ground zero rubble, the mainstream media is now reporting that suspected cop killer Christopher Dorner’s wallet and identification card were found beside charred remains in the burned out Big Bear cabin where police cornered him yesterday.

Citing the Associated Press, USA Today reports:

“A wallet with a California driver’s license bearing the name Christopher Dorner also was found, the Associated Press reported, citing a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation but declined to be named because of the ongoing probe.”

The Guardian actually began an article titled “Christopher Dorner’s wallet found inside burned cabin, reports say” with:

“Investigators have reportedly found Christopher Dorner’s wallet beside charred human remains at the forest cabin where he made a last stand, giving California police some peace of mind as they prepared to bury their dead.”

The Washington Times notes a wallet and other personal items were found in the cabin which burned down after an intense, hours-long fire:

“One official with knowledge of the police investigation who spoke on condition of anonymity said investigators found a California driver’s license with the name Christopher Dorner on it, along with a wallet and various personal items, inside the cabin, according to The Associated Press.”

Questions regarding what type of flame-retardant material Dorner’s wallet must have been made of to withstand a fire that charred at least one person and consumed a whole cabin will be set aside for now for another blaring question:

How many wallets with ID cards in them did Dorner own exactly?

Multiple mainstream outlets have previously reported that Dorner’s wallet and identification had already been found near the U.S.-Mexico border.

On February 11, the LA Times reported:

“After authorities interviewed the boat captain early Thursday, they found Dorner’s wallet and identification cards ‘at the San Ysidro Point of Entry’ near the U.S.-Mexico border.”

Fox News parroted the LA Times on that. According to this NBC article from yesterday, the wallet’s discovery was part of a criminal complaint in regard to allegations that Dorner tried to steal a boat and escape:

“The possibility that Dorner might have fled to Mexico arose in a criminal complaint filed in Feb. 7 in California’s Central District Court. Early that morning, a San Diego boat captain said, Dorner had tried to steal his boat to flee south across the border, according to the complaint. Dorner’s wallet and identification cards were found near the border with Mexico, according to the complaint.”

UT San Diego also reported:

“An investigator working the case said that a wallet and identification cards belonging to Dorner were recovered last week at the San Ysidro Port of Entry, according to a federal complaint filed Thursday in Santa Ana.”

As if that wasn’t strange enough, the same UT San Diego report goes on to mention that before Dorner’s wallet and ID cards being found at the U.S.-Mexico border, an earlier report from authorities claimed his wallet and ID had already been found in the middle of a San Diego street:

“That contradicts with what authorities said on Thursday, when it was reported that a shuttle bus driver turned over Dorner’s wallet, LAPD police badge and photo ID to San Diego police after a passer-by found them near Lindbergh Field. San Diego Police Chief Bill Lansdowne said Tuesday that the items were found in the middle of Pacific Highway and Laurel Street.” [Emphasis added.]

So again: how many wallets, complete with ID cards, did Dorner own? How often do people own multiple wallet sets complete with duplicate ID cards?

Not to disrespect the fallen, but in his manifesto, Dorner vowed he would use all of his police and military training to “bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare” to the LAPD. The ex-LAPD cop was reportedly able to kill three people including a police officer and evade a wide scale law enforcement manhunt for days. Through all the strategy and planning his infamous acts entailed, for whatever reason Dorner decided it would be wise to take up space that could have been used to carry more guns and ammo with…multiple wallets?

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Comment by John Carman on February 15, 2013 at 11:13pm

 I am seeing too much attention being poaid to the number of "Wallet's" Chris Dorner may have had. As a COP/FED, I carried 2 wallets. One was my law enforcement badge and crednrtial and the other was my off duty wallet or civilian wallet. Dorner probably dropped it in San Diego to give the impression he was going to Mexico.(Which is where 90% of all fugitives in the area go) Then no one would concentrate so much on the Big Bear Lake areas.This bought him some time. Just because a "charred body" was found doesn't mean anything until AFTER the autopsy and dental records are checked fully. Even DNA to make sure it really is Dorner. I have personally worked homicide cases where the DNA was the final step in final identification on missing persons in Mexico.(Stay out of Mexico)Here's my web site:   I am former U.S. Secret Service, SDPD, U.S.Mint Police, U.S. Customs & Immigration, (Whistle-blower) Private Investigator and Security Consultant, News Media contact and consultant, Freedom Fighter. Contact me at:   

Comment by Jeffry John on February 14, 2013 at 7:56pm

To you John Carman, a great, big, huge, gigantic THANK YOU for upholding your oath. A great tragedy in the so-called "land of the free."

It is almost certain most police, federal and state agents will never do what you have done.  They are mainly worried about paying bills and buying stuff.  The older cops are compliant to their bosses to ensure their lucrative pensions are not lost.  My suggestion to you older cops:  Retire ASAP because the day mayl come you will be ordered to violate your oaths.  If you choose to uphold your oath, you will be on your butt in the street, cold and destitute.

Thank you again John and may God bless you greatly.

Comment by truth on February 14, 2013 at 1:58pm

Kyle Martin (cabin owner's son) told Anderson cooper live on the air that "the cops had actually searched the cabin about two days ago" Cabin Engulfed - - Transcripts

Comment by Christopher on February 14, 2013 at 10:05am

Like the Saudi hijacker pilot that could not fly a trainer plane but was flying a Boeing 757 - he opened his window just a second or two before impacting the WTC Tower, and threw out his brand new Saudi passport, which was later recovered in perfect condition - talk about implicate yourself - perhaps he just wanted to take the credit; as 'they' normally say.

Comment by mick on February 14, 2013 at 3:22am

Judy Woods is BS

Comment by apeman2502 on February 14, 2013 at 3:12am

  Judy Woods is wrong. I documented the preset demolition systems, including nukes, in 1969. My father was one of the three or four eggheads who got the engineering bid for Skilling and Associates of Seattle. Father used my documentation to bail out of the project when the original demolition systems were added in to the contracts when the steel of WTC I and II was up five stories or so. A newer material, nanothermate, was patented in 1998 and seems to have been added in great surplus to cut the building cores as planned, and initiate the presets. The systems worked as planned and Bush cabal approved in the Nixon administration.

Comment by Marvin on February 13, 2013 at 10:43pm

John, please look up Judy Wood's interviews on you tube. Her book titled "where did the buildings go?" will prove to you that everything you have heard from the MSM about 9/11is absolute horse hockey.

Comment by John Carman on February 13, 2013 at 9:34pm

Sorry, I was in such a hurry and interrupted, I forgot to answer Jeffrey on the Constitutional Oath. Yes, I upheld the U.S. Constitution and took the Oath at least 5 times in over 30 years. I paid a HIGH price to do my job and was ousted for being a Whistle-blower. No I am desolate without a Pension, unemployable, black listed, etc....ALL for doing my job and getting numerous commendations. Anybody got a JOB for a real "Good Guy"??? I would NOT turn my gun against Patriots on ANY "Gun Grabbing" operation. Anybody who doesn't under stand the 2nd Amendment that carries a Badge ad a Gun needs to find out real quick before they are "targeted" themselves. (IS that honest enough for you all??)  I am NOT "new" to any of this and I have bee in the newsmedia since 1995. Also on Dateline NBC, 60 Minutes, etc...John 

Comment by John Carman on February 13, 2013 at 9:24pm

Jeffrey, I DID say what I meant. You can possess and CDL California Drivers License and a California Identification Card.(Read it again) It is a separate Fee, and sometimes people lose theirs and just get another replacement. Either way, Dorner's LAPD Badge & ID wallet were found in an area near Lindberg Field and Shelter Island where he was. HE "may" have tossed the ID out if he were going to Mexico, and changed his mind. Who knows. Maybe someone else tossed it? We do NOT know what "condition" the other wallet and I.D./Driver's License is in after the FIRE.(They "killed" him and did NOT Want him out to testify) Therefore, NO DUE PROCESS!!!

  As far as 9-11 goes, there are lot's of strange goings on with the 911 Suspects Passport being found. Not an impossible thing due to large explosions, but NOT everything gets burned up. I think the possibility that it may have been "planted" is possible, But, what end? I also believe that the WTC buildings had Thermite charges in them and there is a CIA "Whistle-blower" that has discussed that. That had warnings to stay away. Thermite is very powerful and very HOT. Normal Air Craft will NOT bring down a building like it did on 9-11. (I also have EOD training and other expertise as well) USSS(U.S. Secret Service) SDPD, U.S. Customs etc...

Comment by apeman2502 on February 13, 2013 at 9:17pm

  I have heard some lies and lame excuses out of children with chocolate cookie all around their mouths. These adult police, with their freemasonic satanism, lie like naive children with pure evil in their hearts. Kids just don't want a scolding. All they did was eat a bag of cookies.

Comment by oldranger_68 on February 13, 2013 at 8:44pm

I, too, have wondered about Dorner's realness;

Comment by Jeffry John on February 13, 2013 at 8:42pm

"It is NOT uncommon to own or possess more than one copy of a California Drivers [sic] License"

First...there is NO SUCH THING as a drivers/driver's license.  Look at it...or in your case John Carman, them,  DRIVER license.  A matter of semantics?  No really.  The apostrophe and "s" make a complete difference in meaning.

Anyway, I asked around my group of friends [about 29] and not ONE had two driver licenses!  Was told by an ex-cop that it is ILLEGAL to have two driver licenses.  Of course who wants to believe a cop, ex or otherwise?

John, if you cannot see the obvious in the discussion, I will help you.  It is not so much about two IDs but more about the indestructible card.  A similarity to 9/11 and the fireproof passport. The folks arranging these crises lack imagination, mainly because the brain-dead masses DO NOT THINK and will never see the similarities.  These jokers go in spurts, first with contaminating Tylenol in the 1980s, then postal shootings, school shootings, blah blah blah...Never any originality, but then why do you need to be original, especially when the lard-ass public is more concerned about who wins Dancing With The Stars?

John, since you are/were part of some police organizations, we would like to know your answers to these:  Will you uphold the oath to the Constitution?

Will you refuse to shoot Americans if commanded to by your "superiors"?

Thanks in advance

Comment by Deep Space on February 13, 2013 at 8:19pm

Amazingly, one of the alleged 9/11 hijackers' ID & passport was also found at the cabin.

Comment by John Carman on February 13, 2013 at 8:04pm

It is NOT uncommon to own or possess more than one copy of a California Drivers License/Identification card, in separate wallets that may contain just your law enforcement ID and Badge. I also carried separate wallets which contained credit cards, cash, papers, etc...When I pulled my GUN, I used the Police Badge-Wallet with ID card. There is nothing unusual about Chris Dorner, but I know he got screwed over and LAPD LIED. There is a YouTube Deposition by the suspect that was kicked by LAPD-FTO Teresa Evans who LIED against Dorner., I wouldn't be wasting my time if it weren't True. John, Former USSS, SDPD, U.S. Minto Police, U.S. Customs, Immigration, P.I., Consultant, "Whistle-blower"

Comment by Amaterasu Solar on February 13, 2013 at 7:40pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Oh the BS is piling high, ain't it.  *I*'m beginning to doubt that there even WAS a "Chris Dorner."  Whole cloth, I say!  Whole cloth.


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