Adam Kokesh sells out? Tells viewers to be smart and not resist gun confiscation.

First off I like Adam Kokesh and I agree with most of what he says although I sometimes think what he doesn't say is the problem like "9-11 was an inside job" or that "the global elite do have real power and control many world events". That being said I think this video I posted below shows a major misunderstanding he has with the movement when it comes to the importance of being armed and never allowing ourselves to be disarmed. I honestly don't think he sold out because if he had saying something like this would just be WAY to obvious! We are left with the possibility that Adam got some bad weed and went on camera and said some stupid shit that he's going to be taking back, I hope.

Adam seems to be so caught up in this statism v.s. volunteerism fight that he's really lost perspective of the greater battle field. It's like he has blinders on and is either ignoring or dismissing much of the research that makes up the core of this movement. He has become one dimensional in a three dimensional battle space. I guess he wants us all to survive so that we can all join him in getting kettled into a "free speech zone" when we protest the disarmament. I'm sure after they have all of our guns the cops will be so much more pleasant. In fact I'll bet they go out of their way to make us more comfortable after we're arrested that they will have renovated an old base just for us with nice fences and concrete floors... After we become disarmed slaves the voting system will function again to!! By then Adam's anti-state message will have gotten to all the sheeple, they'll of course accept it with out pause and in unison they will demand an end to the state! No need to resist people Adams got this one figured out! Just lay down and show your belly tyrants hate that the most! (obvious sarcasm)

#1 They're not going to casually come for our guns with a cop or two, let alone a man with a clipboard it will be like Katrina in New Orleans and it would have to occur during a nation wide crisis as it would never be accepted otherwise. #2 When/ if they do come and you acquiesce it's not going to be "ok thanks for cooperating your free to go have a nice life"... Adam needs to take a step back and go over the research of WHO exactly has the power in this world and WHAT they have said in their own books and white papers they would like to do. Alex Jones isn't saying they want to KILL US because he thinks it sounds radical and wants more listeners (for the most part lol) he's saying that because of the REAL research he and others have done. When/ if they come for the guns that's just going to be the opening scene to a larger act as they know it will start a war right off the bat. The patriot movement is smart enough to know when this government comes for our guns it's because they have bad intentions in mind and I for one WILL NOT BE DISARMED LIKE A PATHETIC SLAVE when they put their plans into action.

It's good to see over a third of the ratings are DISLIKE on that video and the overwhelming majority of the comments are in total disagreement with Adam Kokesh. Go read the comments for yourself http://youtu.be/XUQfaVnLi5o It will be interesting to see how he handles the blowback. That will determine whether I continue to watch and promote his videos. Adam is still growing in the movement as we ALL are but this was a MAJOR screw up, also making fun of the militia, total class act dude really loved that part about the twinkies!? Hope Kokesh gets his head out of his ass before it's to late and the movement disowns him.

by TheLasersShadow

Ready, Aim... Submit! - Why They Will Take Your Guns From Your Cold Dead Hands

COWARDS!

The greatest amount of responses were from what we would call neo-connish types.  They told us we were cowards and they accused of us "running" away from a fight - which they are correct... we did.  Both Jim Karger and myself left years ago - both to Mexico.  We saw this fight coming and wanted no part of it.  But, if you call us cowards then you have to also call your ancestors cowards.  Human history has been one of fleeing oppression.  It is highly likely that your great, great grandfather at one point looked around in a place like Europe and said, "well, that's enough of that!  I'm outta here."

Definitely not the response I was looking for from Kokesh but hey maybe this movement likes the message, stand down and see what happens. To stand down you must have enormous faith in your ability to persuade people and that the system is going to play fair with you. We're talking about persuading the same people your calling useless sheeple zombies whom couldn't give a shit less about whats going on as long as the powers on, the waters is running, food is in the fridge and the ball games are still on TV. Yeah great plan, it seems your taking more of a chance than me as at least I know I have a chance.

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Comment by truth on August 11, 2012 at 4:13pm

guess I should have watched before commenting.doing that now :)

Comment by J. Patriot on August 3, 2012 at 12:20pm

I agree with LasersShadow if we submit, and give up our guns what do you think will happen! If you study history every time people give up their guns genocide soon follows. We have no choice! You see how well persuasion works when you’re out practicing your first Amendment right you get an ASP Baton up your ass! I've worked for these people, and served I know how they think, persuasion LOL!

Comment by TheLasersShadow on August 3, 2012 at 8:13am

Listen again from 10:30 on

"when that happens, you will submit"

"you would be justified, in resisting, I would hope that if you care about freedom you would be smarter than that..." 

"Persuasion is not just the best way for us to achieve it, it is the only way that we will realize true freedom"


I guess we're both hearing two different things, go figure. I disagree with Kokesh you agree with him thats fine but don't tell me I'm pulling this out of my ass. Just look at the comments here and on his youtube channel you seem to be in the minority.

Comment by TheLasersShadow on August 2, 2012 at 7:07pm

My post is factually correct Troy I didn't use quotes meaning It's a title I chose to describe what he said. My other point which you missed totally is if we give up our guns they plan on killing us. I got Adams point and it's bull shit, you keep telling me to listen but I have already it's just we have a major difference of opinion and understanding of whats going on around the world.

Comment by Nancy Oakley on August 2, 2012 at 4:44pm
Comment by TheLasersShadow on August 2, 2012 at 5:04am

**Updated**

Comment by Russ Hallberg Jr on August 2, 2012 at 2:30am

No one is above suspicion. I've been a truther since 9/11 and have seen many "leaders" come and go. Following "leaders" is what got us into this mess!

The Second Amendment is all that stands between us and the FEMA Camps.

A bunch of rice farmers kicked out the world's most powerful military in VietNam. Don't underestimate what committed resistance can accomplish.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-07-31/take-our-guns-over-...

Comment by suzie on August 2, 2012 at 1:50am

oath keepers who are active military who do not follow orders to disarm the American people will be the fist to be disarmed or join the militia .. the legal constitutional force that has been ignored and demonized by the government and the only thing they really fear .. Article 1 section 8

Comment by Nancy Oakley on August 2, 2012 at 1:42am

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of currently serving military, reserves, National Guard, peace officers, fire-fighters, and veterans who swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic … and meant it. We won’t “just follow orders.”

Below is our declaration of orders we will NOT obey because we will consider them unconstitutional (and thus unlawful) and immoral violations of the natural rights of the people. Such orders would be acts of war against the American people by their own government, and thus acts of treason. We will not make war against our own people. We will not commit treason. We will defend the Republic.

Oath Keepers Declaration of Orders We Will NOT Obey

Recognizing that we each swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and affirming that we are guardians of the Republic, of the principles in our Declaration of Independence, and of the rights of our people, we affirm and declare the following:

1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.

The attempt to disarm the people on April 19, 1775 was the spark of open conflict in the American Revolution. That vile attempt was an act of war, and the American people fought back in justified, righteous self-defense of their natural rights. Any such order today would also be an act of war against the American people, and thus an act of treason. We will not make war on our own people, and we will not commit treason by obeying any such treasonous order.

Nor will we assist, or support any such attempt to disarm the people by other government entities, either state or federal.

Washington at Valley Forge

In addition, we affirm that the purpose of the Second Amendment is to preserve the military power of the people so that they will, in the last resort, have effective final recourse to arms and to the God of Hosts in the face of tyranny. Accordingly, we oppose any and all further infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. In particular we oppose a renewal of the misnamed “assault-weapons” ban or the enactment of H.R. 45 (which would register and track gun owners like convicted pedophiles).

The other nine orders are here: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-wil...

Hopefully, we have reached enough currently serving military and law enforcement to make a difference.

Comment by TheLasersShadow on August 2, 2012 at 1:28am

@ Troy, "They will send more, they are better trained, better equipped." They will send more ... yes I'm sure but the first ones they sent against an area WILL BE DEAD. They are better trained? LOL some sure are but the militia is made up of a lot of former military many with service as recent as Iraq and Afghanistan. They tell us everything without hesitation and train us. Most of the goofs in the alphabet soup agency's are just that, FOOLS! need I post this http://youtu.be/pj4yUpR1PB0

This is not a "knee jerk emotional response" I think you underestimate the dedication to freedom many of us have. When you know you are fighting a truly evil enemy who pulls OKC, 9-11 and other events it's not about politics it's about survival. With that mindset many WILL FIGHT and win because they HAVE TO!  "they are better equipped" thats a BIG NO they are not in many areas, M-4's are pieces of cool full auto shit, glorified 22's. Yes they have grenades and other ordinance, it will be our equipment after the first engagement. We pick what gun suits us best for our area, we have no approved list of equipment. Most of the militia and like minded people are carrying SUPERIOR firepower like semi-auto 308, 30-06, 300win, 338Lapua, 416barret and our favorite .50BMG... 223 is total shit past 500 yards all the cals I just mentioned are GOLD past 500 yards. We will pick the time, place and engagement range, max range will be used as much as possible. We don't intend to fight head to head, and If you think the govt would be able to coordinate a mass round up or confiscation of arms let alone keep something like that secret with the amount of patriots we have throughout the system you don't know what your talkin bout. They don't have the man power either, quite a few in uniform will not play ball and whats left who will ARE NOT TRAINED to handle a 5th generational guerrilla warfare military situation that involves conventional tactics, covert infiltration (we speak the same language and know their s.o.p. very well) and non-conventional modern tactics. We are Americans not Iraqi farmers or Afghani goat herders. Troy you live in a tightly controlled island chain that prohibits most firearms I'm sure it will be near impossible to fight back where your at. On the mainland this is not so and someone like me would NEVER move to Hawaii so I doubt your going to meet many people there like me.  Lets not do the Omg they have drones and tanks routine as it's been said and dismantled. Tanks don't like citys period for good reason and drones are not the end all be all, you can effectively hide from IR with a simple non-conductive(non-radar reflective) umbrella with mylar sewn underneath and camo pattern on top, also walking dispersed at 50 yards breaks up movement. There are MANY other tricks that can be employed against drones. Tanks hate chemists, getting their optics shot and smoke lol no more needs to be said.

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