Dave Camp vs Irs Commissioner HEATED EXCHANGE. 'Let Me Finish'. Dave Camp vs John Koskinen

Dave Camp (R-MI) and IRS commissioner John Koskinen got into a heated exchange over the agency's alleged loss of two years worth of emails involving former o...

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Comment by John Carman on June 22, 2014 at 11:17pm

I'm with Doc Vega !! We need to have a real President who is Born in the Country who will abolish the Federal Reserve and IRS which was NEVER approved by the Congress.

Fellow Whistle-blower form the IRS, named Joe Bannister was actually charged in 2007 and faced bogus charges and WON his case in the Federal Court and proved that the IRS was an "illegal agency" and that TAXES are "Illegal" even though the Director of the IRS claims Taxes are "Voluntary"??? Then why are People being charged and thrown into prison for not paying taxes??? The IRS was NEVER an approved agency by the Congress. The Federal Reserve is a private Corporation. Until the "Colonies" wake up, we will all be "prisoners" to the "system".

Comment by T Stirhen on June 22, 2014 at 11:42am

And again here in Clause 15:To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.

This clause is very straightforward. The militia of each state is taxed with the defense of the USA and her people, not just with the defense of their state; they are to be armed with weapons that can repel any invasions bearing modern weapons of war. It does NOT say that those weapons are to go to any FOREIGN terrorist group or to any state LEA

The Militia defends our nation until the congress has declared war, UNTIL a “standing” military is then raised. US presidents are Commander in Chief of the Militia “... WHEN CALLED INTO THE ACTUAL SERVICE OF THE UNITED STATES” (Art II, Sect 2: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States...".

Comment by T Stirhen on June 22, 2014 at 11:30am

Whichever way one wanted to travel such as by train, car, walking, bus, flying where one now endures illegal searches or being pulled over, and even arrests while traveling within a state, or state-to-state. Traveling out of the country where getting the “permits”, being “allowed” to travel and not being put on “refusal lists” which can all can interfere with or put a stop to your travel.

Building your house, how you manage your property and what you do on it (except that whatever you do on your property cannot cause harm to another or to another's property, etc) without governmental watchdogs telling you what you an or cannot do with your property, or even seizing it which they are not allowed to do. Nor can they tax your property and take it for “back taxes owed”. From one who would know, John Jay, first Chief Justice of the United States: "No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent.”

Then there are hunting, fishing, dog licenses, permits to keep “farm animals”, etc all things done by people – natural rights - before governments were created, and not legally under their auspices. Nor are they today, but they are used as a function of increasing governmental control and the registration of the populace. There is no need for a TSA, DHS, FBI, CIA, NSA, federal LEA, state LEA, etc because EVERY citizen and those lawfully allowed to be here are trained to deter and stop those very things from happening. There would have been no school shootings, suspicious activity in Boston would have been noted by almost everyone and tended to most likely before happening. There would have been no Oklahoma bombing, no 9/11, no Waco, no etc because almost everyone would have been trained to notice and prevent such things from happening.

The Constitutions - federal and state – flat out says that law enforcement was, and still is a universal duty that each person owed to the community and the nation as the Militia of the several states, rather than a power of the governmental agency. It states it here in the US Constitution, Article I, Section. 8, Clause 11:

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water”.

The congress has the duty to grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal when they are needed to enforce the US Constitution, the laws, or defend the people and the nation. This is using private citizens in their own privately owned crafts to defend the USA and her people, this is using the Militia.

Comment by T Stirhen on June 22, 2014 at 11:28am

The ONLY type of “law enforcement” the framers considered was safest for the freedom of the people, and to enforce our constitution's was each state's militia and that is what they put into the USA Constitution. The duty of mostly private citizens (and sheriffs and deputies) was as the state's militia. The Militia's existence deters crime in and of itself. Knowing that each home has at least one person armed and trained living within stops a lot of crime before it is committed. The Militia's keep those within the state and federal governments honest – or more so – because they know that they are held accountable for the constitutions, their oath and actions while serving, employed by, and / or contracted by them. The US Constitution contains NO other provisions for criminal and civil law enforcement, enforcement of the state and federal constitutions, protecting each state's borders where needed, and defending the nation when attacked except for the Militia. It assigns those duties to the people themselves because of those benefits listed above, plus the Militia alone keeps us free.

That is why the traitors to the USA followed Stalin's dictates when he said: ”The United States should get rid of its militias”.

Law enforcement agents of the state or federal governments (professional governmental LEA's) did not exist, they were not even contemplated, and they should NOT now exist here in America. The people should be training for a series of time at the beginning - of resurrecting the constitutionally required Militias of the several states (with pay) and then a few times a year (also with pay) to maintain that /training and no consequence from the workplace.

Driver licenses and other licenses, plus armed police patrols were not a requirement to be able to move about in this country. There was no searches, or permits or licenses required, no being pulled over to be searched, no injuries or deaths by governmental professional law enforcement when traveling. Their creation was a way to increase governmental control and registration of the people and to destroy the Militias to the detriment of the people and our nation.

Comment by T Stirhen on June 22, 2014 at 11:23am

All modern federal and state law enforcement agencies violates the Framers', and the peoples, most firmly held conceptions of criminal justice which was written into the Constitution of the united States of America. Governmental professional police were unknown to the United States until close to a half-century AFTER the Constitution's ratification. Law enforcement under our legitimate government was a duty of every citizen, not the duties of professional governmental law enforcement which is the direct opposite of a limited government. It was set up this way to protect the peoples liberty and natural rights, and to hold those who serve within the governments accountable to the people by the people because as the Preamble to the US Constitution starts with: We, the people of the United States... do ordain and establish this constitution for the United States of America.

As Dr Edwin Vieira, Constitutional “Homeland Security” Volume 1: the Nation in Arms: “That means "that NONE of those tasks are assigned to the Army, to a Navy, to a (constitutionally unknown) National Guard, or least of all to any unnamed professional police, security, or intelligence agencies of the General Government or of any state or locality. Rather, the Constitution's explicit emphasis on the Militia as the preeminent forces by politicians of a garrison, "national-security", or police state...

So those bound by Oath who "knowingly, with willful blindness, or in reckless disregard of the consequences of his/her action" votes for an unconstitutional act, bill, etc; when a "President or state governor refuses to veto it and instead executes it; or when a Judge, either of the supreme and inferior courts of the general government, or of any state knowingly declares such a statute valid and enforceable - each and every one of them violates his oath of office....”

The duty of US citizens to enforce the law is assigned to the people by the US Constitution. Citizens were expected to be armed, trained, and equipped to chase suspects by whatever means they had whenever summoned or needed. When the people are called upon to enforce the laws of the state or where ever needed, they were to respond "not faintly and with lagging steps, but honestly and bravely and with whatever implements and facilities [were] convenient and at hand." Laws in pretty much every state still require their citizens to assist in capturing escaped prisoners, assist in arresting criminals who committed a crime, and executing the legal process. 

Comment by T Stirhen on June 22, 2014 at 11:13am

The founders had the foresight to conclude that there may be times in which the USA wished to enact retribution against enemies without the necessity of waging a costly or expansive war. They felt like war is a menace to individual liberty and a friend of an overreaching government.

James Madison said that war “has the tendency to render the head too large for the body.” Madison concluded, “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty.”

Militia: All able-bodied Americans plus those lawfully allowed to be here - excluding “public servants” - from age 18 through age 60 are the Militia of the several states.

The people as the Militia existed before the states, our country was formed.We...” are the Militia of the several states.,the lawful Defenders of Liberty within our nation from both domestic & foreign enemies, the lawful enforcer of all laws that are in Pursuance thereof the US Constitution and each state's Constitution. The Militia ARE the LAWFUL defenders of ourselves, our families, property, counties, cities, states, and of our nation. When a state's Militia goes out to assist a family/city/county/state, the nation itself; they go as the ONLY governmental body that is LAWFULLY charged to carryout those duties.

The Preamble to the US Constitution; starts with:We the People of the United States do ordain and establish this Constitution”,

By those words it says that “We the Peopleare the source of any and all legal status of the state and federal governments. “We” created them for specific purposes, and it was NOT to destroy our lives, control us, spy on us, track us, or murder us. All public officials – state & fed reps, LEA's, judges, the bureaucracies – are called “public servants” – they are literally our hirelings”.

Comment by Doc Vega on June 22, 2014 at 11:02am

This is what you get when the American people are apathetic and uninvolved in their own government because reality TV shows, video games, and tail gate parties are where all the effort goes while the government uses the mass media to feed people lies and think for them! Liberalism and pop culture have lobotomized the masses like opium as America sinks like the Titanic.

Comment by Doc Vega on June 22, 2014 at 10:58am

President Andrew Jackson had it right when he abolished the central bank in the US in the mid 1840's for 75 years America flourished without the influence of the private cartel of European bankers causing inflationary cycles and currency supply problems. Then in 1913 thanks to Woodrow Wilson, a progressive, the Revenue Act resurrected the monster and created the IRS that has terrorized citizens and violated their Constitutional rights ever since! The gutless GOP Congress has refused to stop this out of control Obama White House! Soon we will have a catastrophic monetary crisis and they will impose a global currency after stealing money from the people! Are these the END TIMES? Sure seems that way.

Comment by T Stirhen on June 22, 2014 at 10:57am

Joel Barlow, Rev. War vet, said of the US Constitution: " not only permitting every man to arm, but obliging him to arm.”

Patrick Henry: “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government."

Daniel Webster: Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war in which the folly and wickedness of the government may engage itself? Under what concealment has this power lain hidden, which now for the first time comes forth, with a tremendous and baleful aspect, to trample down and destroy the dearest right of personal liberty? Who will show me any Constitutional injunction which makes it the duty of the American people to surrender everything valuable in life, and even life, itself, whenever the purposes of an ambitious and mischievous government may require it? ... A free government with an uncontrolled power of military conscription is the most ridiculous and abominable contradiction and nonsense that ever entered into the heads of men. (con't)

Comment by T Stirhen on June 22, 2014 at 10:53am

Patrick Henry: "If you have given up your militia, and Congress shall refuse to arm them, you have lost every thing. Your existence will be precarious, because you depend on others, whose interests are not affected by your infelicity."

Tench Coxe:

Who are the militia? are they not ourselves. Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American...The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”

And he also said:

As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms”.

Joseph Stalin said in 1933:The United States should get rid of its militias”.

That is when the traitors in our governments started working to that end, and created "law enforcement" both federal and state as they could control them and NOT control the people they work for. 

James Madison: ... large and permanent military establishments ... are forbidden by the principles of free government, and against the necessity of which the militia were meant to be a constitutional bulwark.”

That IS the DHS, TSA, and the rest of the armed 'jackboots'.


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