Comment by John Carman on December 17, 2013 at 2:38pm

Very interesting.......IN California a friend who is a "mechanic" works on cars for friends in his private driveway and there is a similar "code" which his neighbors called the Sheriffs and I told him to put up a FENCE blocking the view of ANY activities so no one could complain and say what they were doing in his own private driveway. He put up a special fence with a plastic "tarp" which was in effect a GARAGE Cover. This is almost like leaving broken down vehicles ALL over your lawn and making it a dump site.etc...There were some legitimate concerns about dumping "oil" or other "chemicals" into the sewer/water drains which might contaminate the Water. End of story. (Oh, the bad neighbor was a retired U.S. Attorney....They are scum !!)

Comment by Daniel Nielsen on December 17, 2013 at 2:46pm

Comment by joe banana on December 17, 2013 at 3:01pm

So, John, how much did the building permit cost for the fence? And the enviromental impact study, title search, zoning requirements, and surveying?

Comment by John Carman on December 17, 2013 at 3:06pm

Good question !! Since it was a semi-temporary structure no permits were required to my knowledge. The fenced area went all the way form the actual Garage, driveway, and to the street.It stopped about 6 feet from the curb/street. If he had decided to build a more "permanent" structure, I'm sure there would have been an improvement issue.I am familiar with what you have said and I know some people in construction work, but I don't have a home anymore. (Don't be a law enforcement whistle-blower when you grow up)     MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!

Comment by Saint Quinn on December 17, 2013 at 5:45pm

WELL...Did he have a pistol grip hose squirter? A Brave heroic first responder in California (homicidal scumbag cop) murdered a young homeowner last summer for hoseing off the sidewalk in front of his house...(of COURSE the homeowner pointed the "GUN" (lethal Hose squirter) at the cop....) What choice did the heroic first responder have? Shouldn't this criminal (washing his car) have been murdered by the brave first responders?

 I almost got shot once by a brave heroic first responder once for having a white paper towel sheet in my hand...Imagine if I would have pointed the wet paper towel at the officer? WOOOSH!!!



Comment by HonestLee on December 17, 2013 at 5:55pm

SQ, Not sure what story you're talking about? A guy did get shot holding a hose nozzle, Hose nozzle was NOT attached to a hose. The person was NOT the home owner. The person was NOT hosing off the sidewalk.

We talking about the same story? 

Comment by Saint Quinn on December 17, 2013 at 5:56pm

The Heroic cancerous societal parasite (heroic first responder) had a friendly demeanor while protecting the public from this homicidal homeowner washing his car....This must be his 20th year and the heroic parasite is about to retire (rippoff) at 70K of taxpayer (confiscated) pension and benefits...Then he could milk the taxpayer some more again by starting another civil service (do nothing parasite) position....How about a heroic Library cop at another 70K per year....  


Comment by HonestLee on December 17, 2013 at 6:06pm

LONG BEACH, Calif., April 5 (UPI) -- A federal jury awarded $6.5 million to the family of a California man shot to death by police who mistook a water hose nozzle he was holding for a handgun.

The Santa Ana, Calif., jurors found Officers Victor Ortiz and Jeffrey Shurtleff violated the constitutional rights of victim Doug Zerby, were negligent and acted with malice or reckless disregard for his life during the December 2010 incident, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Zerby's son will receive $3.5 million in damages, $1 million will go to his mother, Pam Amici, and $2 million to his father, Mark Zerby.

Zerby was shot by the officers after they were called to the scene when someone reported seeing a man standing outside the Belmont Shore apartments in Long Beach waving a handgun, the Times reported.

Attorneys for Zerby's family allege Ortiz and Shurtleff did not attempt identify themselves or order Zerby to drop his supposed weapon before opening fire. Zerby was shot 12 times.

Steve James, president of the Long Beach Police Officers Association, said he was disappointed with the verdict.

"The officers were dispatched to a call about a man with a gun, they arrived and saw what they thought was a gun, they saw a man point a 'gun' at them, and the jury found they don't have the right to defend themselves. That's concerning not just in this case, but for police officers across the country," he said.

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Comment by Paul M. Clements on December 18, 2013 at 8:53am

So, the cops lost their jobs and the Long Beach taxpayers are punished by the $3.5 Million award. Doesn't seem fair, does it?

Comment by Deep Space on December 18, 2013 at 9:18am

Nothing's fair in a police state.


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