PASSENGER JET SHOT DOWN OVER UKRAINE
Malaysian Plane 'Shot Down' With 295 On Board
A Boeing 777 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur comes down in Ukraine after reportedly being hit by a ground-to-air missile.
A passenger plane with 295 people on board has been shot down as it flew above eastern Ukraine, according to aviation sources.
The Malaysia Airlines plane, which was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, was travelling at an altitude of 10km (6.2 miles) when it was shot down, Russia's Interfax reported.
An adviser to the Ukrainian interior ministry said the Boeing 777 was brought down by a Buk ground-to-air missile.
All 280 passengers and 15 crew members who were on the plane are believed to have died, he added.
The Boeing 777 that crashed in eastern Ukraine. Pic: Andreas Fietz
A spokesman for Malaysian Airlines, still reeling from the loss of flight MH370 in March, confirmed it had lost contact with flight MH17, which took off from Amsterdam at 12.14pm local time.
The flight disappeared from radar as it flew over Ukrainian airspace, the spokesman said.
Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk ordered an immediate investigation into what he described as a "catastrophe", while his Malaysian counterpart Mohd Najib Tun Razak said he was "shocked".
Alexander Borodai, the eastern Ukraine separatist leader, claimed the airliner was shot down by Ukrainian government forces, although officials in Kiev denied any involvement.
The plane's last known position over Ukraine. Pic: Flightradar24/Twitter
There has been no official comment from authorities in Russia.
Sky's Katie Stallard, in Moscow, said media reports suggest the plane came down in the Donetsk region, where there has been recent heavy fighting amid continuing tensions between Russia and Ukraine.
Data from Flightradar24 suggests the plane had just passed the city of Kremenchuk, around 300km (186 miles) from the Russian border, when it disappeared.
Several videos apparently filmed in the area, none of which Sky News has been able to independently verify, show plumes of thick, black smoke rising high into the air.
A Reuters correspondent at the scene, close to the village of Grabovo, said he could see the wreckage of a burning aircraft and bodies on the ground.
Aviation expert Major Charles Hayman told Sky News: "It's highly likely this aircraft was flying along a fault line between Russian and Ukrainian defences.
"It’s possible the Ukrainians flapped a bit, thought it was hostile and shot it down.
"Perhaps it was confusion at the Ukrainian air defence centre.
"It looks like someone failed to recognise this was a civilian plane and shot it down."
A spokesman for Boeing said it was aware of reports of MH17's disappearance, while a Foreign Office official added: "We're urgently working to establish what has happened."
The White House said US President Barack Obama had spoken to his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin and asked his advisers to keep him updated.
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Permalink Reply by Dave Phillips on
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Permalink Reply by Central Scrutinizer on
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Pro-Russian rebels discuss the shooting down of the Malaysian Airlines airliner
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This fascinating image shows the empty skies above Ukraine following the Malaysia Airlines crash. British Airways, Delta, Lufthansa and Air France have said they are all trying to avoid the area.
Here's Delta on staying out of the area:
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All reports saying 'the East Ukraine Dissidents are the most likely culprits' have to be impossible to believe.
[One Gog page I just flicked passed, had it that a report says that the NWO was actually aiming to kill Putin, but hit the wrong plane! Unverified though, but on a 'chunky' site called "Truth Warriors".]
I have no doubt 'zion' is responsible.
And, worse, zion could have 'issued' the rocket from either 'side' - from the Ukraine military, from anyone of the pro-EU forces, or, from the Russian.
No matter, because it is definitely zion's work.
It's either a "hold on to your hats, 'cause the whole planet's gonna get bumpy from now on",
or,
"Humanity Man's UP! [a gender-neutral inference there!] and takes immediately to the streets across the globe, to PROTEST [against] everything 'zion'!"
For anyone to dare suggest, there is no connection between this tragedy and Israel's warmongering in Gaza, suggests that they, the deluded maker of any such comment, should be silenced asap.
As far as I'm concerned, "The party's OVER!" for spoiled politically-ignorant, self-satisfied zion-loving materialists, of all middle-upper and upper classes, and the war has begun, between we Thinking Activists for Just Laws of Distribution, ET cetera, and the insane egomaniacs who want everything their way, and to own the planet. [aka fundie christians and zionists]
I wrote and posted an article yesterday addressing Australia's outright dysfunctional and criminal fed govt, which is not disconnected to the day's attack, by zion [the Malaysian airline Ukraine shoot-down].
Here;
https://plus.google.com/112369268465045661414/posts/4XMzVnJvxGE
and in this next one, I went further and put it that the world as to join up under a banner of Just Defiance to sort out our woes, mainly, many agree, religious in their roots.
[Fully aware of the assumption that using the term "Just Defiance" I could simply be me acting like the most outrageous megalo-maniac, as that is also my 'handle' on the internet. Well, sorry to disappoint my detractors, but JUST DEFIANCE is straight, and true, in what it means. It's merely what I grabbed to use, for it's pure meaning, and Rectitude.]
https://plus.google.com/112369268465045661414/posts/b6R6nTycJGc
Sorry they're posted to Gog, but, they do seem to be allowing very much less 'mainstream' pages to be on their 'Conversations' pages now. [That's NOT a recommendation!]
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Permalink Reply by Ragnarok on
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Just spoke to a good friend he told me that his fathers best friends son was on that plane last week and was actually thinking of flying this week instead.....
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I would like to question the whole agenda behind this. Are we all as residents on planet earth being played here.? Please read the articles just 3 among hundreds :-) the way this is made ud is that nobody can really blame anybody. The only thing that can be the crucial evidence is the alleged communication if it can be verified. But still they can just use the accountable as scape goats.
Kiev deployed powerful anti-air systems to E. Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian plane crash
Published time: July 17, 2014 18:35
Edited time: July 18, 2014 01:20The Ukrainian military has several batteries of Buk surface-to-air missile systems with at least 27 launchers, capable of bringing down high-flying jets, in the Donetsk region where the Malaysian passenger plane crashed, Russian Defense Ministry said.
Is this the smoking gun? Footage emerges of BUK missile launcher being smuggled back to Russia and missing TWO rockets
- Expert believes that MH17 was downed by a missile fired from rebel-held Torez in eastern Ukraine
- BUK launcher has been pictured rumbling into the town just two hours before the crash
- Ukraine’s security agency, the SBU, has released recordings of intercepted phone calls
- Claim they prove Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by a group of Russian-backed Cossack militants
- Neither recording — which allegedly includes a Russian military intelligence officer — could be independently verified
- Laughing rebels filmed the plane as it crashed, gleefully bragging 'that was a blast – look at the smoke!'
- Hillary Clinton said that there 'should be outrage in European capitals' over the downing of the airliner
- Expert claims that pilot of MH17 'felt uncomfortable' about his route over Ukraine but diverted to hostile airspace
- Russian news agency RIA Novosti reported the crash at 16.13 Moscow time - 'several minutes before the crash'
An expert believes that MH17 was downed by a missile fired from rebel-held Torez in eastern Ukraine - and a BUK launcher has been pictured rumbling into the town just two hours before the crash, leading to speculation that it was this piece of equipment used to bring about the tragedy.
On Friday a missile launcher with two rockets missing was then filmed by Ukrainian intelligence services being smuggled on the back of a truck to Russia.
Anton Gerashchenko, from Ukraine's interior ministry, said of the missing missiles that 'it's not hard to guess why'.
Malaysia Airlines MH17: Signals intercepts reveal pro-Russian separatists claiming responsibility for passenger plane downed over Ukraine
Ukrainian signals intercepts appear to have captured pro-Russian separatists claiming responsibility for shooting down a Malaysian airliner over rebel-held territory in eastern Ukraine.
Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, killing all 289 people on board, including at least 28 Australians.
Ukraine's Kyiv Post newspaper has posted what it says is a conversation between a separatist commander and Russian intelligence officer Vasili Geranin.
In the transcript, released by Ukraine's security service, the separatist, identified as Igor Bezler, says: "We have just shot down a plane. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast)."
The conversation between Major and Greek, as posted by the Kyiv Post:
Major: These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those Cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.
Greek: Yes, Major.
Major: The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first 200. We have found the first 200 - a civilian.
Greek: Well, what do you have there?
Major: In short, it was 100 per cent a passenger aircraft.
Greek: Are many people there?
Major: Holy sh**t! The debris fell right into the yards [of homes].
Greek: What kind of aircraft?
Major: I haven't ascertained this. I haven't been to the main site. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats and bodies.
Greek: Is there anything left of the weapon?
Major: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.
Greek: Are there documents?
Major: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.
All ex-soviet countries is apparently armed to the teeth with those SAM systems BUK M1 and the russians with newer models.....well according to the media.
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