Update on Chat rooms - chatango public chats

Update on Chat rooms:

In addition to the member chat room, many of you may not be aware of our "open to all" public chatango chat rooms.

Due to complaints for and against moderation of the chatango chat rooms we now will be using two.

Unmoderated
http://12160org.chatango.com/

and

the moderated chat room, http://12160.chatango.com/

which will be embedded on the site.

It is hoped that the main chat will be for our vistors with questions and 12160.org site related topics ONLY!

Please use other room for general bs'ing thank you!!

Policy for the moderatred chat were taken from Jack Blood's radio show chat

Any input on this is welcome.

Chatroom

1) NO TROLLING. Trolls will be banned.

Do not verbally abuse, attack, embarrass, or threaten anyone else in the chat room, no matter what they might say to you.

2) Please, don’t spam or flood the room with repeated statements.

Even though you can speak your mind, opinions, and chat about practically everything under the sun, we do ask that you respect the wishes of others in the chat. If you are asked to stop, by either a
moderator or chatter, please stop. Being offensive will NEVER be tolerated. We love having you around, so please allow us to keep you.

If things get ugly the chatroom will be closed down.

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Comment by truth on May 12, 2011 at 8:55am: As predictied chatango chat is dead -stick a fork in it done. I plan to remove them from the site, any issues with this?

Comment by Christopher A. Brown on October 25, 2010 at 3:19am: If things get ugly it is because of "cognitive infiltrations". When productive discussions are taking place, or trying to take place, infiltrators arrive as a false social group and begin to "get ugly" working to get the place "closed down", or dismiss "useful information for gaining more truth".
You will see they refuse to use evidence and promote sensational info, provable as misinfo, or actions that can produce no official action. Basically distractions. I have a thread about it and have just examined your chat, quite infested as far as I can discern.

http://snardfarker.ning.com/forum/topics/identifying-and-detecting?...

Comment by bryan l on October 23, 2010 at 2:50am: sorry

Comment by Christopher A. Brown on October 23, 2010 at 2:43am: Chat has it's place, but it seems to be for intense debate rather than considered discussion. I've not participated much in chat, but think that if a large group are trying to get on the same page and get their specific qeustions answered chat could be a great service.
On the other hand considered discussion that has images in the body of the post can make points tied together much better than what is carried in the text of chat. After a discussion has been properly (logically carried out) it sits around an people read it, then decide the information seems worthy of futher inquiry where upon the chat becomes the tool because spontaneous inquiry might answer more questions than most people have ready, or ask questions they had not thought of.

Comment by truth on October 22, 2010 at 4:26pm: How is using rules from the jblood radio show going to help?
There was a time when we needed some rules in the chat room, those days have passed due to inactivity. Welcome to the site, we do have a jb group - have at it. http://tinyurl.com/Deadline-Live

Comment by Christopher A. Brown on October 22, 2010 at 3:21pm: Is "trolling" posting facts repeatedly for people who cannot counter them or reasonably oppose them?
How is using rules from the jblood radio show going to help?

Jackblood Forum

I joined the jackblood.com forum not because it had much traffic but because I had actually called Jack Blood on his radio show and he promptly hung up as soon as I mentioned the concrete core. Social fears are so strong that when information is widely accepted, even though it is shown to be useless for intended purposes, other information rejected, will not be used. Not because it is illogical, but because people in social groupings, even on the web, are afraid to be seen entertaining the information.

My first post stated I was being banned for posting reason an evidence or logically using a failure to utilize reason and evidence as supporting "secret methods of mass murder". "Dr. No" an administrator there, assured me that I would not be banned for such activity.

I was banned within 2 weeks. A member there with the username, "Jack Blood" had posted once or twice, but never offered any evidence for the steel core columns or directly opposed my information.

I was banned from there for posting evidence and demanding others do the same.

http://algoxy.com/psych/mesims/jackblood.ban.notice

Comment by Tara on August 30, 2010 at 12:54am: Citizen, no worries friend! What I've seen and observed from you has been nothing but pleasant and very friendly. You are a valued member.

I believe the greatest issue with any chat is that something is lost, especially the connection we have on a human to human level. Text has no soul, at least to me it doesn't. Moreover, many feel they can act the fool or say anything without regard for others thoughts or feelings without any reprocussions. How easy that it is when done behind the comfort of their own computer. In the real world many arses would be kicked for the same behavior.

Yes Citizen, with all good things....some must come to an end but it doesn't mean they can not be resurrected. I believe that we have all learned from our experiences in chatango and it's time to move on. Leaving ning and chatango is bittersweet but it's the beginning of another journey to finding ourselves as a site and truly making a leap into the unknown on our own. IT'S ALL GOOD!

Comment by truth on August 29, 2010 at 11:46pm

Comment by Citizen X74 on August 29, 2010 at 11:10pm: ah well, all good things come to an end, but it seems the miserable things go on and on and on... but seriously, it seems this is the fate of all chat rooms. maybe best to leave em be i suppose. i cant help but feel some responsibility for the way things have gone. should have been friendlier i suppose.

Comment by truth on August 10, 2010 at 10:03am: Adam, for the moment, this post is moot. The people and moderators that were having issues have either left or dont use the shitango chat anymore.

As for me, the thrill is gone, (at least for now) .

Frankly its been an anti friendly vibe in there.
I and most of the former regulars have been a part of a slow dumbing down of the chat, in fact general courtesy is gone for the most part.

I note (we) people come and go with out a hello or good bye, refuse to reply to the hellos from others and/ or ignore certain individuals willfully or simply by not carrying to pay attention.

Anons have been shun as if they are harboring the plague and/ or run off being suspected as a troll .

I guess a good suggestion would be to treat others as you would like to be treated.

The two chat rooms solution was a miserable failure.
It seems that two choices is one too many for most people .

There is some good news ... we dont need to baby sit the rooms 24/7 any more. I have always maintained that I rather see the room die a slow death rather than see the ego driven drama in there each day.

12160 is not shitango

Oh and PS, the chat rooms were switched back to the original . The moderated chat will remain where it is today- as it was in the beginning. This was done due to our missing people that come from search engines.
No trolls were involved with this decision :)