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Permalink Reply by Not mainstreamer on February 11, 2014 at 3:19pm

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/02/10/the-nsas-secr...

In one tactic, the NSA “geolocates” the SIM card or handset of a suspected terrorist’s mobile phone, enabling the CIA and U.S. military to conduct night raids and drone strikes to kill or capture the individual in possession of the device.

I.e. waging war by assassinating people. One cannot kill an enemy soldier not in service, that is murder. One cannot kill politicians, and one cannot kill prisoners.

Once I was a bit surprised by a nick wanting to get accept for drone killing. He was also "pro-Palestine" (rather a zionist I guess). When war is about assassinating people then we are on the level of the Elite.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on February 11, 2014 at 4:01pm

Intercept  - fitting name. They intercept our communications, wash them out, then republish.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on February 11, 2014 at 4:04pm

How much you want to bet a bunch of pseudo activists start linking to a bunch of BS stories on this site that arouse from scandalous, shady, titanic roots. Greenwald and Snowden who?

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on February 11, 2014 at 4:06pm

Although EVERY leak they leaked was leaked here, already, years ago, apparently THEY are the trusted source, according to the script. They are worthy of an emperor's welcome to the grand stage.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on February 11, 2014 at 4:07pm

Yes, we all know Greenwald has a new site, funded by some billionaires. Its been spammed across our activist inboxes like the fucking plague.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on February 11, 2014 at 4:13pm

Sometimes things don't need to be washed. Sometimes they are better dirty, like when trailblazing.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on February 11, 2014 at 4:15pm

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Permalink Reply by Not mainstreamer on February 11, 2014 at 4:34pm

When trying to discredit Snowden and Greenwald (he is working so effectively Gen. Alexander is gone ... for incompetence?) one need credibility on Micheal Rivero's level

http://www.globalresearch.ca/my-creeping-concern-that-the-nsa-leake...

Naomi Wolf:
My Creeping Concern that the NSA Leaker Edward Snowden is not who he Purports to be…

First attempt - a flop

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/02/01/thank-you-nsa-snowden-th...

Sibel Edmonds:
Thank you NSA, Edward Snowden and the government PR machine. Thank you for restoring our superpower status here at home and abroad. Thank you for showing our super-ness in something: Snooping & Surveillance of everyone everywhere all the time. Thank you for expanding and putting back the fear of government into our people's psyche. -

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/01/31/the-entire-snowden-nsa-c...
The hidden code in the Snowden-Greenwald Mockery appears to be one objective; one message: Be Afraid, people, be very Afraid. You are watched every second of every minute, and everywhere. You live in a Panopticon State, so watch out (all the time) and behave accordingly. Oh, also, give us your money.

Sibel's attempt - a nail in her coffin

Would you survive a credibility test where everything you have written is used against you? Of course not. You need a name. Snowden and Greenwald has published enough for us to know them. That is not true for us other. 

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on February 11, 2014 at 4:58pm

Credibility of Micheal Rivero's level, rofl. Does it ever stop? No, they keep pouring it on. I don't even bother with it anymore. It exposes itself.

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Permalink Reply by opt˟ on February 11, 2014 at 5:01pm

See the recurring pattern of Michael Rivero worship wherever I post?

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Permalink Reply by Not mainstreamer on February 11, 2014 at 5:21pm

See the recurring pattern of Michael Rivero worship wherever I post?

The number of good sources (skipping their career) is low. I am not that stupid I think people are reliable, because "that is what we must assume" (= bureaucrats justifying themselves)

My brother cannot see the difference between refined salt and raw salt, or the difference between refined sugar and raw sugar - no education. Your language is not much better.

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Permalink Reply by Tara on February 11, 2014 at 5:50pm

Boy, it seems that some here think that they have all the answers and know it all. I'm getting really tired of it quite frankly!

Ok, say Snowden, Greenwald and company are not the real deal... does that in any way take away from the message? Especially considering that many people in the US alone were not aware of the level of spying going on by our own Govt before Snowden's revelations. It brought it to a National and Global level like never before.

Paranoia is fine but damn... just because someone receives attention, monies or notoriety because of the information they share and truth they impart, doesn't necessarily put them in the category of being a Govt stooge. If that's the case, you might as well shut down your computer and not trust anyone in the the truth community or in real life either.

I try to take all info I read or listen to online with a grain of salt and use my own mind to decipher whether the info is credible or not. I don't need someone else to tell me what I should believe or think.

I'm not religious but I love this quote from the Bible. "You shall know them by their fruits." If their fruits turn out to be sour and full of poison... put that fruit down.

And is it really all about the messenger or rather about the message itself?

Not everything is a conspiracy.

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