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Comment by D.M. Simonds on June 7, 2014 at 9:51pm

It's nice to see people finally discussing this subject. But, is there a community in the US like this? Ex-Pat isn't the paradise it used to be with FATCA being used by the IRS to reach out and pop you in the wallet. I've spoken with those who have returned to the US and was told: Diablo can always find you.

Comment by Nikki on June 7, 2014 at 5:03pm

Galt's Gulch is one.

Comment by Less Prone on June 7, 2014 at 12:14pm

Nikki, do you have an example of such community in Latin America?

Comment by Nikki on June 7, 2014 at 12:36am

This won't happen in the US but there are communities of ex pats like this in Latin America.

Comment by Ragnarok on June 5, 2014 at 8:16pm

True, but the numbers are still too low for people daring to start of a new (old) way of life and many too easy to dictate to how they should feel and think meaning that many like the 'security' of living and thinking in a giant flock and not to take or have any responsibility those same people are as we are writing here filling their minds with reality tv and other totally useless information.

But lets hope when enough is fed up with lies, curruption, bad living standards, pollution, indoctrination that huge masses will demand the right to really exist and not just to live their life in vain.......meaning the person were just another naive taxpayer. 

Comment by Less Prone on June 5, 2014 at 7:08pm

Daniel, You are absolutely right. Those people are few and far between, but I believe their numbers are rising. If only one in ten thousand could be counted in this group it would mean; USA 31 816, Denmark 563, Sweden 966, Canada 3 534, Australia 2 350 and so on. There is potential and therefore this issue has to be kept up. It only takes one individual to start rolling a small snow ball. 

Your video; It's really nice to see people doing something real together.

Comment by Ragnarok on June 5, 2014 at 6:46pm

Comment by Ragnarok on June 5, 2014 at 6:36pm

If enough people with enough skills and start up capital united and decided to live without any interference from authority im sure it could be done. It just depends on which country you are living in. 

The only REALLY hard bit is to find the doctors, lawyers, craftsmen, engineers, farmers et cetera who all share one common vision and who are all willing to do their fair share. 

Comment by Less Prone on June 5, 2014 at 5:56pm

It may seem unnecessary to collect together dozens or even hundreds of families in order to start your own farming. A family having a house or flat in urban areas could sell it and buy farm land to start their own production.

However, you need to sell your products, purchase equipment, use professionals in construction and various other services that you will have to pay with money. As I have said earlier Moneyless Business is the Best Business. One more thing; the production would not be limited to farming and food production, but the group would need to produce most of the goods the use internally. That means, furniture, clothes, kitchen ware, tools, weapons, all you can imagine.

For a functioning group you need all kinds of professionals and a critical mass of people that can help each other and, very important, to keep enemies out. Totalitarian government hates independent and informed people especially with their own means of production or land. It is quite logical since the landless and dependent individuals are easier to bully around and drive to bankruptcy and personal disaster.

A war against family unit, a natural defense unit,  has been going on for a long time. Connecting several families together forms even stronger such unit making it possible for people to leave their home in the vigilance of the neighbors when needed. Here is an example what can happen to perfectly law abiding citizens who are not helped by their neighbors; City of Tulsa, Oklahoma, destroys woman's edible landscaping with over 100 varieties of medicinal plants.

In my opinion you need something around one hundred families to put together their effort and money in a corporation to purchase enough land for a sustainable business enterprise. Considering the regulations of farm animals at least 250 feet away from residence you need at least some five acres of land to separate the residence from animals by planting forest, fruit trees, garden or other vegetation. That way the business cannot be shut off already in the beginning. Also, buying a large piece of land in stead of several smaller lots reduces the price per acre considerably.

The whole land area having the individual lots or small farms would need to be surrounded by a thick intrespassable vegetation and a wall or a fence leaving only one controlled entry.

Comment by Tara on June 3, 2014 at 8:04pm

Well... start reading the above posts and the comments in the group for starters.

Basically, it's a call for freedom loving Americans to come together, buy a piece of land, live outside the system, cooperate through bartering/trading/sharing and rebuild a life without bars.

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